Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

Watching the news about the direction large entertainment companies are taking is sort of interesting as if they keep putting out subpar material they will eventually go bankrupt if they dont change course, predicting certain movies will flop is not having an axe to grind, surely it would only count as an "axe to grind" if they were wildly successful and still had a problem with them?

The fact Marvel are trying to bury any and all references to to the Inhumans experiment really killed off any hope of any of the characters ever appearing again.

Damn shame.

Mac, Robbie, Daisy and Fitz were awesome.

J August Richards Deathlok was brilliant in his too infrequent small cameo's.

Coulson and Mac are insanely quotable.

and I think in S2 Coulson tells Trip and Daisy to "prepare for a big file transfer" and Daisy asks "how big" literally seconds before an entire filing cabinet crashes down infront of them from the top of the building and Coulson looking down from the smashed window.

Basically, once Joss Whedon left the Marvel top table, Jed and Marissa, AOS show runners lost contact with where the movies were going and therefore lost the ability to keep the party connection. Truth be told I kind of preferred Skye the hacktivist to Daisy/Quake the not mutant Inhuman.

Thats why the Krakoa theory of mutants entering the MCU became so popular.

Just need to pick a trigger (Hope Summers is a popular one - she was the mutant messiah that triggered the 1st renaissance of mutants post decimation and could complete the 5 needed for ressurection so doubly handy to use her) to cause their reveal.

Saves a lot of awkwardness and repetition of already multiple seen origins.

Thats where the Krakoa theory comes in. They were present in universe but not interfering in matters until the time suited them.

Anything else is a massive plot hole that utterly breaks the universe.

There has to have been a hidden group of senior mutants to kick things off right.

Given the existential threats that Earth has faced over the past while in-universe, it begins to feel really weird if yet another gang of ultra-powerful heroes were just hanging out ignoring it, with The Eternals doing the same. It felt a big stretch to use that story beat once - using it twice feels like way too much.

Yeah this phase is literally the Multiverse Saga, and we're seeing how Prof.X has already been included, and Deadpool will have Wolverine and probably other X-Men. We're also seeing how in Doctor Strange, his actions have helped cause Incursions, which is where two different realities clash with each other. So chances are by the end of this Phase they'll all be rolled into one and the MCU can just decide who/what to keep and re-cast anyone else they need to.

He can be hit and miss. Some of his Variants like Victor Timely, yeah his performance isn't great and he goes overboard in trying to make each variant feel/sound different and unique. Some Variants like the exile in Quantumania and even most of his performance as He Who Remains, I thought was excellent.

The Marvels, a nice piece of harmless fun although I'm surprised that the 10 Rings story didn't come into it more, considering some of the hints in Shang Chi post credits and Ms Marvel.

I'm REALLY struggling with Loki season 2. It took me about 3 sittings to get through I think episode 4 maybe? The one with Victor Timely (really??!!) and miss whatshername, the AI.

And, as has been mentioned by so many, the fact that you almost HAVE to watch each and every even tangentially-related series or show to get the "most" out of each movie is draining. It's the same with the Star Wars stuff.

For ne, I enjoyed Hawkeye for the lighthearted nature in general of it and the excellent comic timing for Steinfeld.

I enjoyed Falcon and The Winter Soldier (Seems so long ago).

Wandavision? Meh. But you had to watch it to know what was going on with Dr. Strange 2.

In Star Wars, Asohka, you needed to have watched all the CG Clone Wars series to get who ANY of them were.

Andor barely touched on Star Wars (You might know he's in "Rogue One" later, you might not) and it's FANTASTIC

So I think the financial disappointment of Marvels is not down to people not willing to watch a female-led superhero movie but REALLY the final proof of superhero fatigue. And lack of focus and weak antagonists. I mean compare how heavily they are pushing Kang. Compared to Thanos. And does anybody else think that basically "Multiverse" is just an easy way of undoing whatever they want or bringing in whoever they want?

Tony Stark is dead. Ah, but here's Tony Stark from universe ZZ9-Plural Z-Alpha (Assuming they offer DJ a metric tonne of money or they recast for the hottest young thing).

Now here's the X-men!!!!!

We all want to see the X-men again but in the MCU but will we be knackered by the time they come?

who will be knackered?

a leopard doesn't change etc etc...

I can't wait.

It is a bit telling that the bit that everyone remembers the most from Dr Strange two was

Victoria Alonso was fired from Marvel in March, and there was a pretty big sigh of relief following it, especially from the VFX departments. I can't see there being any truth to this. Maybe Feige will leave, but I doubt it'd be Alonso who comes back to replace him.

It'd be a huge step for Feige to resign though. As bad as the performance and quality of MCU projects have been of late, they also haven't bombed horrifically enough to warrant stepping down. If anything, that would cause far more chaos behind the scenes, and less faith by fans that they could right the ship.

How do ye folks know so much?

Do ye work in the industry?

The audience breakdown for The Marvels was 65% male and 35% female, going by past films if you want a bigger female audience you put a shirtless Jason Momoa and Chris Evans in a movie ;-)

So you're saying if the main actresses did the same, the film would've done better? 😃

I'm sure plenty of people would've complained.