A Woke Society? **Mod Warning In Post #435**

Yes since sexual assault in the family is the most common, that would be true.

This is all very familiar, the slippery slope argument.

Homosexuality was punishable by flogging in the 1800s, then by imprisonment as in Oscar Wilde, then they stopped putting them in prison, then they legalised it, then it became acceptable with civil marriages and gay marriage. The final straw was giving gays the right to adopt children. You'd never see a gay person in 80s Ireland, now they are everywhere.

It'll be compulsory in 20 years time, and if you aren't gay, people will choose to be trans instead. Bloody everywhere.

It has always been the same, children can't go down coalmine anymore, they'll all go soft, women start going to work, workplaces will become hysterical, men will get infected, legalise homosexuality and there'll be gays and trans people everywhere.

The reason you can see more gay and trans people is because it is now more acceptable in society. They were always there hiding in the closet. The reason they hid it was attitudes like yours were the norm 40 years ago and people couldn't come out. Now they can.

The reason you see more is because your intolerance is losing and society is becoming more open.

Its like saying everybody has mental health issues these days. No, it isn't covered up like priests sexualy abusing kids left, right and centre was in the 80s. People can say they had bad bouts of depression without people saying "its the nerves again".

Gays and trans people should be covered up and stay quiet, like children should be seen and not heard in the 80s. See how that worked out.

From U.K. I can’t find any figures for Ireland. Imagine if 50% of all male prisoners were sentenced for sexual offences. There’d be uproar.

“In 2019 the MOJ released statistics showed half of the male prisoners who declared themselves transgender have been sentenced with one or more sexual offences.”

https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-male-criminality-sex-offences/

Indeed true fantastical levels of obscuration.

But those people are clearly loons.I don't think many people were making that argument during the same sex marriage referendum , just a few loons.

There are perfectly sensible arguments being made about access to women only spaces.It's not exclusively "the right" that is pointing out that biology is important and shouldn't be forgotten.Old school feminist for example make this case and they certainly aren't considered to be "The right" (whatever that means these days)

The only histrionics tend to come from the TRA side, JK Rowling for example makes a perfectly reasonable case that biological differences are important and should never be forgotten and the TRA side has a conniption and wants her banned from everything, wants to pretend she did't exist.

What exactly do you mean when you say "the right"?

PS, advance warning I won't accept any definition of it you provide just like you refused to accept any definition of what people said the phrase "Woke" means to them.

The only histrionics tend to come from the TRA side

Ahh now, that’s evidently not true, even from the way this thread which was started with the idea of questioning whether society has become more woke, has descended down the usual rabbit hole of portraying men as a constant threat to women and everyone should be hyper vigilant about it, and those who aren’t, are the people who are woke?

It just makes no sense, yammering on about perverts invading women’s spaces when in reality it’s far more likely that perverts who are of a mind to engage in that sort of behaviour, the last place you’ll find them is in women’s spaces. They’re far more likely to be in places where they can violate the trust of their victims, like this pervert:

https://www.thejournal.ie/swim-coach-secretly-recorded-girls-changing-6220074-Nov2023/

(ringing endorsement from his wife and his mother-in-law)

Or this weirdo, following people around recording them on his phone when they’re just trying to get their grocery shopping done:

https://www.thepinknews.com/2013/11/20/tesco-launches-inquiry-into-employees-posting-online-photos-and-videos-abusing-trans-customers/

Generally, people just aren’t interested in that sort of thing, which is why there are some people exaggerating and fearmongering and calling anyone who doesn’t share their views “woke”, as though anyone who doesn’t share their views doesn’t care as much about protecting women and children as they do! It’s a weird sort of reversal of the concept of “woke” in all fairness.

JK Rowling lost about 3/4 of her fans when she started ranting about trans issues. Her fanbase was made up of exactly the demographic who is most accepting of trans-people.

I don't suppose she cares much since she is minted, but she sure plays the victim card well.

For me her most terrible sin is her appalling writing style, unforgivable when you have to read her drivel to your children.

Really? She's lost 3/4 of her fans, I very much doubt that is the case.Have you any evidence to back that up?

Her fanbase is made up of pretty much everyone, she really doesn't have a particular specific fans base like some authors have, that's the reason she's sold 600 million copies of her books.

Clunky and obvious. No poetry to the language. The stories were ok but the writing was dreadful.

Compare her to Philip Pullman and His Dark Materials trilogy and it's night and day.

there is abuse in LGBT couples as well , and Lesbian couples isnt lower, would suggest that not all people are good in relationships as it sometimes brings out the worst in people as opposed to seeing things as women good men bad