A Woke Society? **Mod Warning In Post #435**

The eugenisist rears his head.

Ya, also there's also so many elements of these things that people don't fully grasp that might mean there's advantages to societies in different forms.

That’s exactly what it means though when you have limited sets of data to work with, and the studies into this sort of thing are tiny, with numerous methodological issues. They’re basically unreliable as a means of informing policy decisions. I don’t think there’s any aiming for equality of abuse between the sexes, I’m suggesting that this idea of making broad statements and generalisations about any particular groups behaviour in society is fraught with difficulties and often lacking in context.

For example your statement that date rape and spiking of women in social situations isn’t perpetrated by women? I would suggest that’s an inaccurate assessment informed by your own prejudices rather than statistical data which could be used to provide evidence to support your claim.

Of course it stands to reason that it makes sense if you imagine women would never do that to other women, you’re inclined to believe they wouldn’t. I wouldn’t make that same assumption though.

if it was kept away from kids I wouldnt really care,for the sake of argument I can accept there are some genuine cases that they feel that way, not that its " a woman trapped in a mans body" thats just silly however I believe kids can be brainwashed into transgenderism by not/mis diagnosing some other mental issue or having abusive parents "transhausen by proxy" I believe is the internet term, so society should protect kids and shut down the likes of TikTok etc.

I wouldn’t, but that’s because I’m not a fan of coed schools in the first place, for numerous reasons other than just the idea of shared facilities, which do nothing to prevent perverts who are of a mind to do so from gaining access to those spaces, and that’s the point I think you’re missing - you’re conflating the idea of perverts who engage in that sort of activity with men, while at the same time arguing that society makes those assumptions about men. You’re part of that society though, which assumes that men are perverts by virtue of the fact that they’re men, so it doesn’t make sense to then be pulling Shoog up for saying that women should be wary of all men, when you’re contributing to that perception.

..and yet you single out trans-women. Your contradictions must be hard to hold in your head.

there are limits to what one accepts off children, because they are children with incomplete developed brains, they get notions and can be easily manipulated either on line or by malign parenting, or interpret one condition as something else. As a society we dont even allow under 18's to get a tattoo.

"thinking of children" while it sounds chiched is such a common thought because its what parent express in various ways, they literally want a society that better for children not one that is worse.

"evidence based" ie social-studies studies is probably the worst type of nonsense that should not be informing public views.

When you can demonstrate an evidence base for your fantasy threat please let us know.

Aye but all that social study stuff is nonsense.

Jaysus.

A feminist would describe it differently, where i see it as being a complement. In recent years the "threat of male violence " is being diminished in public life. a lot of videos of a woman for example being attacked in public tends to show most men ignoring it and being unwilling to intervene...winning!

Crime statistics.

Are you looking at the crime statistics for women who commit criminal offences where their victims are women and girls?

Because that would remove any doubt as to whether it’s just men are a threat to women, or the idea that there is any need for women to be wary of men, when it is only a minority of men who engage in that sort of behaviour. It doesn’t seem reasonable, healthy or helpful to induce fear, anxiety and paranoia in people based on the remote possibility of anyone ever finding themselves in those circumstances. Most women aren’t likely to find themselves behind bars for example, which is a good thing for them:

Female prisoners are much more violent than men in jails, according to Ministry of Justice (MoJ) figures.

The rate of assaults in female jails rose by 21 per cent last year, to 419 per 1,000 women prisoners - the highest since records began more than 20 years ago.

This was 65 per cent higher than the rate in male prisons, where there were 255 assaults per 1,000 inmates. This represented only a marginal rise of 3 per cent on the rate in 2021.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/31/women-prisoners-more-violent-than-male-inmates-moj/

I don't think the church should be involved in schools but the religious education I received and I went to Catholic primary and secondary schools was mostly harmless.The fact that so few people under the age of 40 are committed Catholics suggested that the religious education in Catholic schools was fairly ineffective in recent decades.I still think the schools should be taken away from the trusteeship of the Church in general.

Keep on spinning what you imagine I said. If a group shows higher levels of dangerous behaviour which can impact you then been wary of them is entirely justified - and sadly that is the reality we live in.

I as a male am extremely wary of going out in certain situations for fear of male violence.

An interesting statistic, males account for 98% of violent homicide crime and 78% of victims of violent homicide crime.

"According to the data given by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, worldwide, 78.7% of homicide victims are men, and in 193 of the 202 listed countries or regions, men were more likely to be killed than women.[citation needed] In two, the ratio was 50:50 (Switzerland and British Virgin Islands), and in the remaining seven – Tonga, Iceland, Japan, New Zealand, South Korea, Latvia, and Hong Kong – women were slightly more likely to be victims of homicides compared to males.[1] A 2000 global study on homicide by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime found that men accounted for about 98 percent of all homicide perpetrators worldwide[2] and 79% of the victims (see the chart below). The highest male homicide rate per 100,000 inhabitants was in Honduras and highest female homicide rate per 100,000 inhabitants was in Lesotho."

Wiki.

You seem unable to grasp that a group can have a high incidence of a behaviour without all members displaying that behaviour. It's almost as if you don't want to understand that point.