Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

This morning on RTE, Claire Byrne interviewed Ciaran Cuffe MEP. He supports the 30m passenger limit and is going to meet the DAA. I didn't hear all the interview, but (surprise, surprise) he seemed to get an easy time of it. Cuffe asserted that the "true" level of aviation emissions was 10% rather then the 2.5% generally quoted. I'd like to see the methodology of this examined.

https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22319258/

Anyhow, that's my Green vote gone to someone else!

Few things there after listening to that.

The cap has absolutely nothing to do with either ensuring the residents of north Dublin can sleep at night nor does was it set because of climate reasons.

Claire suggesting anyone who takes more than 4/6 flights a year should be taxed on this accordingly is disgraceful. How does more tax make it greener.

Ciaran complaining about people heading away on stag weekends to Prague etc. nothing to do with him where and why people go away.

Interview funnier than some comedians.

Is there approx figure of how many passenger/day the airport can currently handle.

That isn't the big gotcha she thinks. 2 or 3 trips a year, from an island nation isn't as much of fanciful or over zealous use of flights. It really worries me when prime time public service broadcasters make such stupid comments.

Nor did I ask you to but thanks for the info

It has two runways same as Heathrow (actually, Heathrow lost the last crosswind runway years ago but Dublin still has one) and that handles over 60 million passengers a year. Talk of a second airport in Dublin or even in the adjacent counties is daft.

There will not be a 2nd airport in the greater Dublin/Leinster in any of our lifetimes. Those that think otherwise are deluded, have a regional agenda of their own or are just trolling.

capacity can be increased partially by the larger aircraft. I believe the planes ryanair take delivery of in several years, have 21% higher seat count than current...

Also as regards a new airport being built in this country in our lifetime! as per the above post! L!O!L! if planning was applied for now, we would be looking at sixty years before a decision was reached... metrolink will be delivered before 2035, before another airport here is built in the next hundred years!

Not a chance. What you will see (and in less than 10 years) is politicians pontificating about how routes should be moved from Dublin to the regions.

I meant the west apron of Dublin airport and the current lands up for sale around that which is zoned for agricultural or airport use, just to clarify.

They're insisting they have loads of high bids, but the claim that they'll apply for permission for a terminal, that has no access to the airfield, suggests that there isn't anything realistic other than the DAAs chancy one.

Applying and being refused permission would make the land worth even less.

According to that FORUM group a notice was in the Irish times during the week and the documents ABP requested by the daa which were supplied in Sept are now available for public viewing and observations. Closing date for observations 14th Dec. 500 pages.

I haven’t seen the notice or the 500 pages yet.

Rehearsed here many times before and there is zero chance. Also, nowadays much of the noise an aircraft makes is airframe rather than engine noise, especially when gear and flaps/slats are extended.

Totally agree.

Regarding a limit or tax on the number of flights or miles a person can do in a year. Firstly it would be virtually impossible to come up with a global system to allocate or police this. How could Ireland do this on it's own?

A tax based system would just benefit the rich who would not adjust their behavior and then the super rich with private jets which are the ultimate end of the scale.

Environmental Caps on separate airports are not effective as the demand just shifts to another hub, just like the Dutch are doing. It does nothing to reduce overall activity.

Dublin Airport is nowhere near capacity so all this talk is just generated about by the media based on various lobby group agenda, McEvaddy's land or new runway departure path action groups.

The current planning cap by Fingal is not airport related, but was to do with road traffic capacity in the local area. This is going to be reviewed and while public transport initiatives to the airport itself have not progressed, one could argue that since covid, commuters and WFH have significantly reduced from the pre covid projections. The main artery to the airport is the M1 and it has to max peaks based on the morning and evening commutes. I would say that whatever commuting M1 traffic projections were forecast before Covid, are at least 20% lower with the new WFH patterns.

Just to clarify, i'm not comparing commuting peak traffic in 2019 to 2024,2025 etc, but rather the original projections for 2025 peak commuting traffic versus post covid revised projections.