Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

That's it?

Holding Israel to account is anti-Semitic and marches are riddled with anti-Semitism and Islamist sentiment. Do you understand the principle of percentages? A handful of posters out of the million people marching is close to being statistically irrelevant.

What evidence have you that the Met is frightened by Islamists and are needed to be actively forced by Political pressure in to doing anything about them? Please show a link to support this (preferably not one from Julia Hartley-Brewer or GBNews or the likes.)

Who's land was it? Source?

I agree with everything you’ve said. Maybe my prior post was too cryptic (error on my side)

That's the one thing I don't get about this whole thing. Hamas and the IDF are two side of the same murderous coin, it's just that one side has the better weapons.

I'm sure Israel would happily see all Palestinians removed, whether moved or killed, to secure it's future. And I'd no doubt that Hamas would happily and gleefully see the death of every single Israeli and every single Palestinian so long as one Palestinian stood at the end on top of the corpses.

We're dealing with a dirty war here. There's no right or wrong, there's just horror, and both sides are guilty of it. Calling out Israel for it's barbarism and war crimes is badly needed and needs to be continued, but the idea of siding with or being sympathetic to Hamas despite being a jihadist death cult, and not calling them out for their barbarism, their persistent war crimes and depraved view of the world is just madness. And the only thing stopping them from doing much worse to Israeli's is Israeli blockades.

This is a dirty, filthy war with no good on either side, and the only ones you should have sympathy for here in this conflict are the dead and the wounded on both sides who didn't want any of this.

Hamas have committed the most heinous war crimes even against their own population. It is difficult to conceive how a group can plan to put their own innocent civilian population deliberately in harms way, knowing that the military opposition will have no other realistic option other than to target them. It is a level of depravity and evil in Hamas that the world has rarely seen before. Even the Nazis wanted to look after their own, Hamas don't even care about their own.

Ok here is example for ya and then see what you think.

The government in NI say they want to wipe out the Republic and everyone living in it.

One day they launch an attack across the border, killing about 1000 people. (given our population difference it would equate to that)

Not just police and army, but women, children, babies and old people.

Then they leg it back across the border taking 180 women, children and old people with them as hostages.

WTF would you recommend the Irish government do?

Hold a fooking candlelit parade, write a strong letter to UN.

How do you think the breath of feeling in Ireland would be?

No other country has suffered a terrorist attack like this.

Ah yes we will hear about the years of oppression, the occupation which btw hasn't existed in Gaza for decades.

If this had come in West Bank at least there might be some excuse, but no it came from Gaza where hamas have been in total control.

And instead of trying to better the lot of their people, they have been stockpiling weapons and building tunnels for themselves.

And alot of people have been very happy to conveniently forget Israel have stated they will ceasefire if hamas release the hostages.

FFS now we are using Shakespeare as reason for a Palestinian state.

Fook lets get them all out and give back to the Romans.

They knew how to run the place.

Hitler was said ,by own of his associates to have said at the end that the German people were (to paraphrase)" not worthy of his vision" .

Some "populist"

Do Hamas entertain similar ideals about "their" population?

Hamas are “operating in a way that is outside the bounds of any civilised concept of how you would think about using a hospital, using human shields”

Imagine being attacked by terrorists that hide in a hospital using hostages and babies as human shields? Even a Bond villain wouldn't do that.

Perhaps we should take a break from the middle east and fix the problems in Ireland instead? There will never ever be a lasting peace with that. Good luck to anyone living there. Good luck.

Did you never stop to think, in your unquestioning pandering to the Zionist propaganda, given that the IDF have said hospitals surrounded with infantry and tanks, if they have all the main Hamas lads in there, why are they still striking random residential blocks and markets full of people?

Have Hamas leaders mastered the art of bilocation?

One of the main propaganda videos released by the IDF was quickly debunked as identifying what was a a water tank at a hospital, as some Hamas HQ tunnel entrance.

It was mentioned in Othello, written in 1604, so this narrative that it didn't exist is patently untrue.

Except he didn't say that or anything remotely close.

The attack on Israel was an official Government declaration of war. It was designed, supported, funded, executed by the Government of Gaza.

The IRA was in no way linked to the Irish Government, nor supported by it, nor did it have big support from the Irish population.

They're not remotely comparable and trying to shoe horn in comparisons/making blatantly false equivalences achieves nothing whatsoever.

You're the one who raised the UK bombing nationalist areas in response to terror attacks. And claimed some posters would be "cheering the bombings on" despite nothing whatsoever in the quoted post alluding to anything of that nature.

It's not remotely comparable to what's happening in Gaza. It doesn't make sense as a comparison. The Oct 7th assault was a Government-led act of war against another state, said Government has high level of support according to poll indications, said Government designed/executed the act of war.

If the Irish Government at any point had sent a thousand undercover Irish Army soldiers into Belfast, killed 1,400 UK citizens and taken others hostage, then yes I would expect there would be a massive military response against the Irish state.

Hamas have held power in Gaza since 2007, that is where your analogy completely fails and is seriously deficient. A strawman comparison to put it another way.

"OMG, Hamas use hospital as bases and use women and babies as human shields. What a bunch of monsters, its disgusting. Anyway, let's drop a bomb on them all ans blow everyone to pieces. That will solve the problem."

Sorry, who's meant to be the evil one in that scenario again?