Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Yes, this issue has the potential to split the EU.

But apparently not in a way that is going to influence how significant numbers vote in the next general election, which is as I say is always the top priority for Irish political parties.

Another placement with little to no consultation. The government are sh*tting all over communities across the country.

If it were a 'moral' obligation, they could just say as much. But that's not what the gov have been saying. They say "International Obligations", and that suggests internationally recognised ones, such as the UN Charter, international treaty's, EU treaty's etc. Weird that nobody has challenged them on that.

I suppose the point im making is, that if we have International Obligations, what are they specifically, where are they detailed, and how do we extricate ourselves?

Peadar Tobin asked a question in the Dáil to Helen McEntee for the number of deportations by year since 2012. in 2012 273 people were forcibly deported, in 2021 5 people were forcibly deported.

Jesus Christ, that is criminal.

So bottom line is that people refused leave to stay can stay as long as they want until theres another amnesty.

Likely most are coming from safe countries and tourists won't be looking for school care or GP care

"We see nightly on our televisions the effects of war and the effects of fear on people.We are very lucky that there are no bombs dropping on us, that people in other parts of the world are living with on a daily basis

“So when people come to out country looking for help we should make an effort to welcome them. They are being dropped in a place they have never been before and speaking a language they do not understand.

“We are a very decent welcoming people here in Dromahair and with some good will we can make this work.Whatever label is put on them these are people who need help and shelter.”

When it was suggested that \Dromahair was not big enough to cater for the numbers arriving, she said: “If that hotel was full we would manage and if they were coming here as tourists we would welcome them and if we want we will find a way.”

Again, yes they are! Do I have to mention again the lady who continued to live in direct provision and study for 10 years while she had a deportation order against her for 9 of those years. All she had to do was sign in with the immigration officer every two weeks to say she was still in the country.

Eventually she was given leave to remain, because they nearly alway get leave to remain in the end.

It's not just Killarney, it's the whole county. Hotels that were closed for years are opening up and there's money to be made. Lots and lots of money. Still good to see the beginnings of pushback... long may it continue.

Heard a radio advert on Newstalk promoting people with spare rooms or houses to rent to Ukraine via logging onto gov.ie - has this one been running for long?

Been running long enough now. It was raised from €400 to €800 about a year ago, obviously when the goodwill started to die down so the government needed to incentivize people giving up a room.

You’d have to wonder what effect it’s had on availability of rental rooms across the country. You’d see rooms being made available online in Leitrim or Roscommon, etc under the the ARP scheme (what it’s called) where in normal circumstances the homeowner would never get €800 for the room, thereby putting an artificial floor in the rental market.

What is happening in Gaza is horrendous, no question, and my heart goes out to the Palestinians. However, on a seperate note, the 30 Irish citizens which are trying to leave, which the Irish government are trying to.help get out as well .. I would like to see an immigration check done to.see how many of these recieved Irish citizenship on the back on AS, refugge, IPA, or whatever.

We hear and read too many stories of ex- AS/IPA/Refugees who once get they Irish passport returning home (ie. 'Unsafe countries') to visit family, study, or whatever.

Nobody asked my opinion about such obligations. Any candidate that offers to get tough and nip this nonsense in the bud, gets my vote. I really don't care what party they come from.

From my own POV i moved to a new part of the country, called around to register with a GP in the area, most would not even consider taking me, but one was new to the area and I was put on waiting list and was told a place would come up within a year. I'm a PAYE worker and have never taken dole in my life, no medical card here.

Well a year later a big war broke out in Ukraine and when I called back to the GP, am now told there is no waiting list and they will not take anybody. Yet I am told that Refugees get a medical card, and get assigned to these same local GP's.

Meanwhile I have to drive 30 mins to the only GP i could find. So that's 30min there, an hour or so at the GP, then a 30min drive back. It's costing me and my employer. And I pay cash up front. I've had some health issues and have had to do this journey 5x this past year. Could be worse I suppose, but this is not right.

Pure idiot being a PAYE worker huh.

Listening to that clip from Killarney and it’s so obvious the same line being trotted out by all in government.the man who said that the anger is bubbling up all over the country is palpable was on the money.

looks like the Green minister for immigration unquestioned is on a sole mission to destroy the tourist industry to such an extent that there won’t be any tourists coming here so No emissions.win win for the green lunatics

Lol.

Parents fearful of teenagers going out after dark?

I didnt realise that the govt had imported 74 ninjas, each harbouring a vendetta against the good folk of Tipperary.