2023 NFL regular season thread (no picks)

Not sure a cold Chicago night is the best time to have your kicker make their career long.

You could argue in this day and age kicker's should give you a chance from 60 but that isn't Pinero and we'll they hired him knowing this.

Terrible game from both sides. A few stand outs aside it didn't even feel like great defense stopping them.

Not sure I have seen a false start in a victory formation before!

The country roads thing has jumped the shark.

With a 7-3 record after losing by 2 points to another team with a winning record, after getting to the playoffs in four of the last five years? Jaysus...not sure who you think will take over that will be an improvement on that

Campbell took over a horrendous franchise, almost took them to the playoffs in his second season and they are legit Superbowl contenders this year.

I assume you are making a sneaky, cheeky dig at Belichick with your comments about coaches not doing well without an elite QB.

Well let me just remind you of 2008 when we lost Tom Brady in the early minutes of game 1 of the season and we went 11-5 with a little known college back up QB named Matt Cassel.

Pete Carroll is heading for his second winning season with a bust named Geno Smith.

McDermott's Bills have a 37-12 record over the last three seasons and been beaten by the Chiefs twice and the Bengals once in the playoffs.

How many games has a kicker won for the Ravens in the last ten years? 18 is the answer, is that great coaching or just lucky to have the best kicker probably ever in the game? How many less games would he have won without Tucker?

If you are suggesting McVay couldn't do it without a top QB, that just make Dan Campbell even better.

Nick Sirianni lost to the Superbowl champs in the playoffs in '21, lost in the Superbowl last season. Tied best regular season record last year, best record to this point so far in '23.

Belichick, Reid, Carroll, Sirianni and Campbell are top five for me. So you are saying McDermott, Campbell, McVay and Shanahan aren't as good as Harbaugh?

And of course I forgot about Mike Tomlin. He's won far more divisional titles than Harbaugh and the Ravens, in the last seven years its 4-2 to the Steelers. So you can put him in there ahead of Harbaugh too.

Touchdown Broncos, Courtlabd Sutton, 9 -0, they missed the PAT.

Not sure what the bills were at tonight but bad INT from Josh Allen, and inability to hold onto the football by both teams. That Super Bowl window we all felt the bills had might be closed shut.

They could still win the division with a 9-8 record.

The Dolphins are very overrated by the media. They have a nice offense but they don't do will against a good pass rushing team. Their defense is awful.

Their wins so far, Chargers at the beginning of the season in a shootout, Patriots twice, Broncos, Panthers and Giants.

Coming off a bye it'll be interesting to see how they go against a revitalised Raiders.

Lamar has to start taking some blame, he's choked numerous times when the game was on the line and threw a terrible interception to Brown's to tie the game. He's a good QB buts he's not built for pressure. He folds like a deck chair when the chips are down.

I see in upcoming TV listings that the Thanksgiving Detroit v Green Bay game will be on Sky Max as well as the usual Main Event and NFL channels.

That contract is designed and restructured to let them push at the start of his contract with that incredible defense. They have used 28 million of cap space the last 2 years on Watson which is pittance for a qb.

However that means that the rest of the money is due against the cap the next few years. He has 64 million against the cap the next 3 years followed by a 9 million hit in a void year. They will likely restructure again next year entirely crippling them for the final two years and the year after he leaves.

This is in addition to not get any first round talent onto the roster as thry traded all their picks for this horrible contract.

Also in addition that this for a qb that has not played well for them. He finally had a good half and is out for the season.

You love to see it. They dug this hole and will lie in it.

Myles Garrett's cap hits grow over the next couple of years too. I think it's $20 million next year and north of $30 million the following two.

I think it's be done by the percentage of starters that go down in each position on average over maybe the most recent three years.

So let's say it was the same amount as this year, I know the season isn't over yet but let's say five. Then that's just over 15% so I'd expect insurance would be looking for 17% of the annual salary.

I can see why an individual player would take insurance against injury costing him future earnings, but I don't see why a team would within the confines of the salary cap. Not something I've ever heard of either, so fairly sure it's not a thing.

Eagles v Chiefs should be a great game with both coming off the bye week.

Joshua Dobbs looks like he's going to be a full time starter next year. He really does look very good

Eagles determined to waste opportunities. 2 terrible screen plays after a great turn over to give the ball right back