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Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2022 - No PM requests - See Mod note post #1

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  • Registered Users Posts: 610 ✭✭✭mr chips


    A family member has been given a quote which I'd like to run past people who'd be more in the know than me - I live in NI, so I'm not familiar with the market there. It's €6700 for a 3kWp roof installation over 7 panels, with a hot water diverter but no battery. The quote says "this quotation excludes the SEAI grant" - please correct me if I'm wrong about this, but I'm fairly sure that means that the amount of the grant (€2100) should be subtracted from the subtotal, giving an overall cost of €4600.

    The roof of the house isn't one uniform rectangular area - there are dormer sections in the south-east facing side. This would probably require panels to be placed in three or four locations altogether, quite possibly on either side of the main two halves of the roof. However, while this might involve a little more work/wiring than putting in one bigger uniform array, to me this quote still seems on the high side for a 3kWp install. Am I wrong?



  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭Ints


    I just paid 7640 before grant for 5kw system split on two sides, with hybrid inverter and Eddi. Installers from NI. So I say but overpriced.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,404 ✭✭✭con747


    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭Ints


    That's correct, plus BER. Also I had to pay in full and now wait for my grant.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Comer1


    Can anyone advise me about appropriate cost of getting a crossover switch installed and anything else needed so that the battery can run the house in the event of a power cut. The crossover switch itself is very cheap but i don't know what else is involved. Anyone who got it done, what kind of money did it cost on top of the solar installation? Thanks



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,404 ✭✭✭con747


    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭theboringfox


    Qoute for 16 jinko 430w panels ...6kw system, string inverter and eddi hot water diverter. 7k after grant. Thoughts? Tried that link and seemed to suggest it was fine



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Comer1


    Installer says some new "unit" is coming available next year at about €600, so total cost would come in at about €1,200. That seems very expensive to me when a crossover switch is €30. I really wish I knew what is involved in getting this done.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    "It depends", (also it's a changeover switch)

    Not sure what inverter you have, (Huawei have their own special backup/changeover device)

    Couple of routes

    Whole changeover, need at least a 63 or 80 amp changeover, which would mean interrupting the main tails coming into your house and rerouting them through the changeover switch, (if they reach). Also to note if you feed the inverter its own power it will shut down. Usually you turn off the mcb for the inverter and then operate the changeover.

    Sub board changeover, take select circuits onto a sub board, and the changeover switch sits there between the main board and the sub board.

    Also need another cable going back to the inverter.

    €30 may only get you an enclosure for the changeover, never mind the actual device!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Comer1


    Thanks for the response, very useful information. The system isn't in yet, I was looking at getting it done as part of the install. Yes, it is a Huawei.

    It seems it would not be worth the hassle or expense just to avoid the inconvenience of a power cut once or twice a year (if even that.) Different story if someone had medical equipment or something like that.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,719 ✭✭✭deezell


    Inverter must be capable of off grid operation, without being tied to a mains input. On grid inverters, even hybrid with a battery, will stop when the mains is absent.

    Sungrow have inverters that have a split output, ongrid and offgrid. You seperate your consumer circuits, and place up to 2kw, iirc, on the off grid output of the Sungrow. It will supply these circuits from the grid when power is on, then switch to off grid if power fails, panels and batteries permotting.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 vandeman


    Is this quote ok ?

    10x 400w panels, Hybrid inverter, 5kwh battery, My Energi hot water diverter and BER for €9600 afte grant ???

    Thanks



  • Registered Users Posts: 824 ✭✭✭HotSwap


    what are you hoping to achieve? Do you want 1-2 “backup” sockets to work in the event of an outage?

    of do you want certain circuits to work? For example; lighting, heating,

    or do you want everything in your house to work?

    do you know which inverter and battery your getting?

    Do you also want the panels to be able to provide power in the event of an outage?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Comer1


    In my naivety I thought it would be a fairly straightforward job to power the whole house. Thanks to the posts above, I now realise that it's a big job and big expense. Now, I'd actually be happy if I could just have a double socket working.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Yeah, We put it in my Dad's supply as we were changing the consumer unit anyway, and running new cables for solar too. so the extra cost wasnt huge, as we were starting from almost scratch anyway. Dont have a specific cost as it was part of the whole job.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    Speaking to two suppliers at the moment, no idea if good or bad value. Apologies if I shouldn't post this here

    Supplier 1

    5.7 KW Solar PV System.

    12 x 475 Watt Jinko Solar Tiger Neo Panels (25 Years Warranty).

    1 x Huawei Hybrid Inverter (10 Years Warranty, and battery ready).

    1 x Huawei 5KW Battery (10 Years Warranty).

    1 x BER Rating. 

    Net cost after the SEAI grant: €10,500, without battery €8,500

    Supplier 2

    •   10 x 400w panels 

    •   Hybrid inverter 

    •   5kwh battery storage 

    •   My Energi hot water diverter 

    •   Roof mounting equipment 

    •   All labour works

    •   All electrical testing and commissioning 

    •   Online monitoring to see each day exactly what your system is producing

    •   BER 

    Net cost after the SEAI grant: €9,600 or €5,600 without the battery



  • Registered Users Posts: 824 ✭✭✭HotSwap


    It’s mainly a matter of running an additional cable between the inverter and the consumer unit. And depending on what your trying to achieve; a bit of reconfiguration of the breakers in your consumer unit. Electricians might make it sound complicated; but it’s very simple.

    i wasn’t trying to discourage you; i was just trying to know what your looking do implement so i can better advise you.

    which inverter? Its implemented differently for different inverters.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Comer1


    They just said it's a 5kw Huaweii inverter, Sun2000 5ktl l1.

    Post edited by Comer1 on


  • Registered Users Posts: 824 ✭✭✭HotSwap


    It would be an identical setup to mine; I have the same equipment. I’d you want I can give you the details. I have some diagrams I drew at the time also.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Comer1


    Thanks, my installer is looking for €1200 to €1400 for it. I have no idea if that's a fair price or not, but either way I'm not prepared to pay that much. If it was a few hundred on top of the install, I'd be all for it. Is it something I could get another electrician to do afterwards I wonder.



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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Harmony Black Pussycat


    Got a quote today of interest - though had never seen the brand of the inverter/battery before so want to scope that out first.

    Don't want to buy something that relies on a cloud integration if at all possible to be able to get the data out of the system.

    5.22x Tier 1. Jinko 435Wp black solar panel cost per kW

    Each: €1,338 Amount: €6,984.36


    1x Livoltek Hybrid INV + BATT. All in one hybrid inverter and 5kWh battery

    Each: €4,162.99 Amount: €4,162.99


    12x Flat roof. Ballast kit for flat roof cost per panel

    Each: €75 Amount: €900


    1x BER. Allowance for BER

    Each: €350 Amount: €350


    1x NC6. ESB NC6 Application

    Each: €50 Amount: €50


    1x Misc. 10% Winter Discount - Valid until Nov 30th

    Each: -€1,244.74 Amount: -€1,244.74


    Proposal total: €11,202.61

    No grant possibility unfortunately.

    Quote compares very favourably to what I've previously gotten - but don't think it's the best I could possibly do or anything.



  • Registered Users Posts: 733 ✭✭✭Buzwaldo




  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk




  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Harmony Black Pussycat


    I'd leave it to be done anyway to make sure that they don't ruin the super-insulation / air-tightness of the house I suppose!



  • Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭potsy11


    Hi All

    I am getting 14 x Denim Glass 430Wp panels (6.02Kw System).

    I've been offered 2 different kinds of set ups and I am not sure which one is better or worse.

    Option 1:

    1 x Solar Edge Inverter (12 yr Warranty)

    1 x SolarEdge Import / export meter

    1 x Eddie / Solar Edge Hot water diverter.


    Option 2:

    1 x Huawei Hybrid Inverter (with 10 years warranty)

    1 x Huawei Import / Export Power Sensor

    1 x Eddi Hot Water Diverter (with 3 years Labour and Parts Warranty) - Dont know the brand but think its the MyEnergi one.


    Obviously the 2 year warranty helps but is there much of a difference? I will probably add a battery in the future once the prices come down.

    Thanks in advance for any advice.

    *Cost of system is €9k before grant applied.€6600



  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭elgicko


    12 x 430w jinko panels

    SL rack mounting kit

    5Kw Huawei inverter

    Water diverter

    10Kw Huawei battery + BMS

    Huawei car charger

    BER

    All electrical components, isolators, cable, power meter etc..

    €9,950 after grant.



  • Registered Users Posts: 733 ✭✭✭Buzwaldo


    Not sure about he Solar edge, but my understanding is that with the huawei inverter you are limited to huawei battery ( and possibly one other type) if you chose to add later. Not compatible with other batteries.

    I found this out after paying deposit for huawei system. My own fault for poor research and haste. Anyway I didn’t get a battery and possibly never will if FIT stays reasonable.



  • Registered Users Posts: 824 ✭✭✭HotSwap


    It requires a 500 euro additional bit of equipment; more cable and reorganisation of you consumer unit. Those prices arnt exorbitantly high but it’s up to you whether it’s worth it or not.



  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭stenan


    Hi all, anyone know if the below price is reasonable? Also another input, advice or questions i should ask would be greatly appreciated.

    8 x 400w panels 

    •   Hybrid inverter 

    •   5kwh battery storage 

    •   Energi hot water diverter 

    •   Roof mounting equipment 

    •   All labour works

    •   All electrical works

    •   Online monitoring

    •   BER 

    € 9500 Final Cost

    Or

    € 5500 Final Cost without battery's.

    Should I get battery's or not. We don't have an electrical car?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 824 ✭✭✭HotSwap




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