No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

@Jjameson I've joined your ranks by being blocked on Twitter.

First time I'm aware of it occurring.

By a tweeter by the handle of ByHedge. Who goes around inspecting hedges on farms for a living. Delighted to say he will never be allowed on farm here. His loss.

No doubt the straw chopping scheme was an idiotic idea, straw could be returned to the land via promotion of fym co operation between tillage and livestock folks if required - compulsory stubble cultivation just as bad as it actually results in more nutrient and soil loss to waterways, and deprives Red listed farmland birds like Skylarks and Yellowhammers of vital winter feeding areas.

Base was the area sown autumn/spring last year down a lot like some people are saying...just wondering if you had any idea ...

14e for for half packed bales including mowing and raking. Not happy.

At least presuming you have all this years bedding sorted. We have some time to get sorted till housing next year. It's all money though. But truth be told I can't really milk off straw. Cows are dry here now really because they are in on the beds. I should have acted years ago on this but I didn't want to fall out with the relation on buying their straw but I know the way the mood music is going.

I had a homeopathic salesman in the yard yesterday and they were remarking of an organic dairy client who is worried about the situation.

It's one of those periods in Irish farming history where a cat has been thrown amongst the pigeons. The likes of Gibbons is loving this.

But it's still first world problems or opportunities or whatever.

We purchase straw from 3 different farmers in our area, firstly to buy is winter often straw for sheep usually 90 round bales and cut early and this year all chopped a total of 150 acres, secondly is small square bales of winter barley straw 400 bales this year sold as rounds to the north. Third fellow spring barley rounds sown in February got 75 of the 120 ordered due to chopping and big squares for mushrooms and all spring customer had to take cut back, all stated they had to chop straw for the scheme on advice.

I think you're being generous calling them car clubs...

@Water John like her or loathe her, Verona Murphy calling for the Minister should be slapped has now gotten her reelected in the next election.

Farmers will remember that stunt, when the €1000/ha goes in their bank account in Wexford.

We supply an organic dairy farmer with barley straw and he got the same number of loads as every other year.

It’s hard to keep up with the narrative, are tillage cn*ts(your own words about some grain growers rep) meant to just start taking your prompt from now on?

it flips from using glyphosate, cultivations, hedge cutting and now chopping straw rather than giving away cheap p/k and on?

And anyway @Waffletraktor how are the skiing holidays?

When the boot was on the other foot and dairy farmers got a once off payment of 400 all we heard on here was about these skiing holidays?

No mention of skiing holidays now from your supposed mythical opposition of dairy farmers on here. What does that say? Maybe you are not as beaten down by others in farming as is let on. But those dairy farmers do provide a great opposition to talk about in the WhatsApp groups. Strange. Chop. Chop.

a farmer is entitled to chop straw, but the government shouldn’t be paying them taxpayers money to do so. It not the primary cause of the crisis that is going to ensue but it is the secondary cause.

I mean if you want me to go looking for the specific post about a localish member from the irish grain growers group looking for some scheme or other from late spring time i could waste a few hours over the weekend. Though a post from 10th of May, 2nd parraghgraph i quoted certainly isn't putting words in anyone's mouth. can you show me examples please?

As for the other guff the lone what's app group with farmers i'm in is more about which mills are being dickheads with grain samples lately and the status of winter crops and if patching in spring varieties very early would catch up for harvest. If heavy land with skyhigh Mg levels will drain before april or if sfi would give a beter return vs potential seed bank risk. We don't use any social media as it's not real life, and puruse only a few forums. If i wanted likes i'd post up shiny metal at the scale unheard of in Ireland as ye didnt sell enough drugs to the chinese or kill the kings enemies to become acceptable.

In fairness boards has never buzzed with tillage talk like how people got on getting loads through boort malt this year etc etc, and how much hard red spring wheat/colemans mustard/ryvita rye is grown in Ireland. If you think lads with unharvested corn getting money so they can clear their input debts as far as i'm aware is ski'ing money? A former minion close to you forwarded a video of your contractor taking maize out through a field of uncut barley 2 weeks ago, i believe his employer uses their services alot. Just go and look at some of their ex veg land before the big maschio's arrive to rip the 15'' ruts out and then tell folk to give up the turnip and cabbage for cheese and killowen yogurts. Though you do have too much of a hardon for the likes of George or Ed and their schemeing agronomist ways and the tillage lads.

Here I may private message you.