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Playstation Portal

  • 14-11-2023 6:57pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Weird that I didn't see a thread about this, I know there were posts in the PS5 thread but surely it deserves its own.

    Will anyone be getting it? Early reviews are very promising and as someone who doesn't get as much gaming done as I would like it looks perfect. The kids can have the TV while I play on the portal.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,014 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    By most accounts it’s a pretty niche device that does the same as devices you might already have, just with a slightly slicker form factor.

    I personally think a Steam Deck is a much more attractive option, as you can get remote play on that with a small amount of tinkering and you get a fully featured handheld PC in the mix that isn’t a brick when you’re away from your router. The base models of that aren’t that much more expensive than the Portal with the recent price cut (although that fancy new OLED model looks incredible). But if you really *just* want to play PS5 only games in handheld format on your couch, I guess this is a somewhat cheaper option that does exactly what it says on the tin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I don't really have any need or desire for remote play, so I'd just get no use from this. Seems like a nice bit of kit, but would have to agree with JU that unless PS5 remote play is very important to you, there are other handheld that you'd probably get much better use out of.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    This evening was a perfect example of when I'd use it, kids wanted to watch a movie so instead of getting my plat trophy in spiderman 2 I watched the santa clause. I do have a razer kishi but just don't find it comfortable and the bigger screen will be a plus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    I've it on order. Could only get it from Amazon. Didn't see Smyth's list it at all unfortunately.


    Amazon order hasn't shipped and has an expected delivery of 17-18th so it might end up being Monday before I get it.


    I do have loads of use cases. Got up early with the kids on Sunday and it would have been great to have had it, went to bed with the baby last night and could have used it. I did play remotely on the steam deck so got my fix.


    Will report back once it lands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,493 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    It's very much just an accessory/companion akin to a fancy controller for the PS5 and will only see its value as that. It falls into a niche area of usage, but there are instances where someone may want the use of their console but not necessarily the primary display. Now whether that's worth 200 quid plus, is another story when there are other, albeit platform limited, options available.

    The biggest selling point, and one which puts it well beyond another form of remote play is the controller. That is a huge pro in its favour. Of course the pessimist would argue a nasty bout of drift would be most problematic in such a device, but in its out and out remote functionality, there's potentially no substitute. Personally, I think the lack of WiFi 6e support as per the Quest 3 and Deck OLED is a bigger missed opportunity. Lot of congestion in the average house network nowadays, but as long as you're not expecting to be on top of twitch shooters, the ability to sit back with some single player adventure or 10mins of something here or there is appealing. Cloud gaming support would certainly give it another point or two in its favour, but whether that is a future feature remains to be seen. Excellent controller and an apparently excellent screen, while not going to grab the recent headlines like the Deck, at least sounds better than a cheap tablet fudging remote play with a limited controller.

    Will have one to hand tomorrow to test out, but might not get to give it a proper go till later in the week. If anything it might re-energise the PS5 in my house, where it just gets less and less interest.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Went to buy it in Smyths but UK only. Anyone know where to get one today?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    I'd say it will show up on Smyth's. If you search for it on their site the results show it, but when you click the link it doesn't bring up the page. To they either have no stock, stock coming, or it's a bug as they have it in the UK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Been reading a few reviews and the ones that like it think it works great. The ones that don't seem to land more on the "I'm not sure it's needed" side than the it's bad.

    Still no sign of mine getting posted from Amazon. They are sold out everywhere so I'm hoping to see it get updated tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,493 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Had a little go with it tonight.

    A surprisingly solid device in the hand, it gives off a good first impression. Setup relatively straight forward - charge, power on, connect to network, download a couple updates, sign in to PSN, select PS5 to connect to, reminder of how to connect when its on and what to do from rest, and after a pairing of a few seconds you're presented with the PS5's dash.

    Looked absolutely terrible on first connect, but after disconnecting and waking up the Portal from sleep and reconnecting, it looked pin sharp.

    Very good screen, not OLED obviously, but very bright with good colour reproduction. Some banding, as to expected with LCD, but acceptable. Then it's just a matter of using it just like the big one. Didn't put them side by side but feels as wide in the grasp as the Steam Deck, though with the seemingly smaller thumbsticks, I didn't find it as forgiving as the Valve device with large hands. Pop some caps on them and it should be an improvement.

    Speakers seem quite tinny though especially if you're used to pumping the PS5 audio through a receiver. Obviously Sony are going to try to sell you their earbuds, and there is the audio jack so it's not the end of the world. Performance is nothing too revolutionary as Remote Play has been about for a bit, though it is slickly handled and feels the part with the dedicated controller. Only tried it with Spider-man 2 but seemed a more than acceptable way to play the game. Had a quick look at Astro's and that seemed to be having issues maintaining 60fps so have to take another look to see if it was a once off.

    Definitely not going to be for everyone, and I'm not even sure I'd be getting appropriate use from it, but it does appear to do what it'd intended to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    A few people online said it was available on Smyths for a short period yesterday so it may be a while before it is available. Hopefully not a similar situation to the ps5 launch.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 thunder2k


    Hey lads, quick question for the ones who have already tested it.. Is it possible to connect non-ps5 Bluetooth earbuds? Can you login into a party with them and talk with your friends?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,493 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Didn't bother trying any. Big kicker with this is there is no Bluetooth audio support, so it's either the upcoming PS Link earbuds or Elite, or headphone jack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭nomoedoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Delivery between Nov 29th and Dec 5th. Ordered it just to be safe but does anyone know if it could be delivered earlier?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,493 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Re: Cloud gaming support


    However, while cloud gaming isn’t part of the proposition right now, it doesn’t mean it won’t be added in the future. In fact, there’s nothing preventing that happening, a Sony VP has said in an interview in the company’s Japanese homeland.

    Translated comments from Hideaki Nishino – the SVP of platform experience at PlayStation – suggest Sony is simply biding its time and making sure its cloud streaming infrastructure is stable enough to bring to the Portal handheld. He said the differences between Remote Play and cloud gaming, in terms of facilitating it, are negligible.

    “It’s easy to check off the features,” he told AV Watch (comments translated via macOS Safari). “However, we would like to proceed while carefully considering whether this is a good idea and whether we can truly provide gameplay without any problems.”

    “In terms of Portal, remote play and the cloud are only different in terms of where the server is, and there are no technical problems. We will start with Remote Play and proceed with verification. We have been taking cloud gaming very seriously ever since we acquired Gaikai.”

    Nishino added that it is cautious of pushing into cloud streaming on the handheld and users having a bad experience. He believes it has to feel as natural as gaming on the console.

    He added that “it is important not to feel like a cloud. If the transfer is waiting and expires, customers will never believe in cloud gaming again. I don’t want people to say, ‘I couldn’t use cloud gaming.’”

    So, while the PlayStation Portal isn’t the all-singing all-dancing handheld out of the gate, there’s certainly potential for it to get much more useful over time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    No like all PlayStation devices they don't seem to bother with Bluetooth. Even the PS5 doesn't support it and the official Sony headset needs a dongle!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    I got my dispatched email from Amazon. It's in the airport in Manchester and has cleared customs so fingers crossed it is in Dublin with An Post tonight and they should have it to me tomorrow.


    I think the IGN review was telling. He was super sceptical and didn't see the point until he took it to a coffee shop with free wifi and just connected and played perfectly.

    I fully expect cloud gaming to come to it. Sony just seems very cautious. I wonder how long until it is hacked and Xbox cloud is running on it :)


    Edit: in the Irish customs system now

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    It's landed in Dublin looking good for tomorrow :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭LanceStorm


    Stalking Smyths to hopefully get it through them, is there any stock trackers for this? Around PS5 launch I remember a few Twitter accounts were brilliant for following new stock drops.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    That same Irish page is still running but isn't posting much anymore.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    They seem to be popping up on amazon.de regularly today with delivery in December. Nothing on the UK Amazon since earlier this morning though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    If I was single without kids, I wouldn't even bother with it. But in my situation, it's the perfect device. I could of course get a steam deck but it just looks like it would be very uncomfortable to hold for long periods, it just looks like a game gear.

    I know for a fact I will use this all the time both at home and in work so for the price, it's a no brainer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    I'm still waiting. I am tracking the postman and he is driving all over the place instead of to my house 😭.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,975 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    The negativity stems from the fact that to the vast majority of people its very hard to see the appeal particularly compared to getting a steam deck or a switch instead. I can see why someone with little kids would get one but Sony aren't exactly selling this aspect of the device.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭shawki


    The only thing holding me back from it is my less than average internet.

    How are people with slower internet getting on performance wise?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,342 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Thinking about this as a gift for a friend. He is interested in the remote play experience. He has a PS5 already.

    Just so I understand its capabilities properly. With his PS5 at home, and assuming he has sufficient bandwidth he can connect back into his own PS5 and play the games he has, is that correct?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    I think people saw a rumoured handheld and hoped they were getting a vita 2. So that was definitely a negative start for it.

    I guess Sony looked at the Vita and lack of third party support and thought that at least this option doesn't have that issue, it doesn't have to compete with the switch and the deck.

    It does one job and it does it well. Add cloud gaming and it's pretty much in line with what MS have rumoured to have in the works for their handheld.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Give remote play a go on your phone or tablet and see how that goes. If it works, you'll be OK with the portal.





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    It arrived just as I was leaving the house to collect the kids so only got to open it up now. First impressions are it's really nice. I mean really nice.

    Build quality is great. But it just works. No messing with work around or apps etc. turn it on and connect. The screen is great. Very bright and crisp.

    The controller parts are smaller than the actual PS5 controller so it feels a tiny bit different. It's not a huge difference but it's there.

    Booted up WRC that's a game that needs to be near perfect at high speeds. I tried playing it with chiaki on steam deck last night and couldn't as the delay was too much. But on this the portal it was almost perfect. I actually got curious about the delay so I held up the portal to the TV screen as the race timer shows in the top right with fractions of seconds, and took a photo. I reckon there was about a 0.1 second delay.

    So maybe for twitch shooters not the best but almost everything else it's perfectly good.

    But very happy with it. The other remote options are notably worse experiences that do when you are in a jam. But this is a great experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    A few bits are a little annoying.

    1. If you turn off the PS5 instead of putting it into Rest mode you are goosed. You can't get it back on. Unlike the normal controller that can wake the console the PS button on this just turns on the portal.

    I think that's a big miss. It's okay if you are at home but imagine you bring it travelling and shut the PS5 down instead of rest mode (which I do all the time) it's rendered useless.


    2. None of the media streams. It is blocked rather than not working. I tried opening Disney and it opened for a split second then the screen is blocked. Same for Netflix, prime, Spotify. It's essentially a second monitor so this seems pointless.


    3. No display colour settings. You can make it brighter but not change any colour settings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭LanceStorm


    The wake feature has been an issue for me plenty of times when just playing remote on my phone, I always put the console in rest but probably 1 in 4 times I go to play next it says there was an issue and it does a little scan before recovering. Takes away from the convenience at home having to go to the console to get it back online, impossible when away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I rarely use rest mode, unless I'm downloading something in the background and I know I'll play it later that day/night. If I leave it in rest mode other than that I always turn off TV and stuff at the socket before going to bed and then my PS5 will give out to me the next day as if I p*ssed on the hard drive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    If you press the PS button on a normal controller it wakes it from fully off. I would have thought at least that would work at home.

    Played a few different games last night. From Astro boy to WRC to Titanfall 2.

    All were a good experience. Not perfect but good. There is a tiny delay. So anything that is about perfect timing is prob not a good option. But the vast majority of games will be grand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    I don't know if anyone else went through amazon Germany like me, initially I was told it would be delivered December 5th but I just got a dispatch email saying I should have it by Saturday.

    Now to find a good case.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭crazyderk


    Does anyone know where I can get a PlayStation portal?

    I checked with folks in smyths and the guys have no idea when they will get it.

    Ive been watching amazons / very / curry’s and no change in stock.

    the ps5 stock checker on twitter doesn’t seem to be active anymore so not sure what else I can do?

    any suggestions?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    I heard a rumour of mid December for Smyths but take it with a pinch of salt. Keep an eye on amazon Germany.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭BigMo1


    FWIW, I went into Smyths last Thursday and the lad behind the counter said he's not anticipating them to be in this year.


    On the lookout for one myself for Christmas. If anyone sees them available, a steer in the right direction would be much appreciated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 mpeter92


    How much did you pay on amazon Germany. Looks like scalpers selling for 300+



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭blockfighter


    Said I'd throw my own personal experience with the device up here.

    This thing is brilliant. So easy to setup. My Gameplay experience has been great, no noticeable lag even when playing games that require quick reflexes like driving games and fighters.

    Brought it to work yesterday, a half an hour drive away. Worked like a dream. 2 people at work are planning to buy one after testing mine now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Grumpypants



    This is a picture taken while playing WRC with the Portal held up against the TV. You can see a tiny delay. Literally a fraction of a second. But without the photo evidence I wouldn't notice it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    €235 delivered, my prime didn't work for free postage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Spent a good 90 mins playing Alan Wake this morning and I'm loving this machine. It's just a lovely way to play. The screen is incredible. Great size and it handles blacks really well. But I think it is the comfort when playing. The deck can be a bit clunky. The switch controllers are too small but this doesn't feel like a compromise at all.

    If they get the cloud up and running it's great value at €230.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Mine landed in Dublin this morning after sitting in France since Monday so i should have it tomorrow. I was worried it had gone missing because of how long it was stuck in France.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    Any news of stock? Facebook pages or the like



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    I won't say much bar this, what an absolutely incredible piece of kit this thing is. Anyone on the fence, I suggest jumping on it whenever you see any in stock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I wasn't going to get one, but I may have a situation where one would be very handy so I may pull the trigger once they become available. Been a while since something expected to flop has been such a success!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭Barlett


    I got one too...really good bar this weird issues where the screen would freeze for a couple of seconds...had a look online and you have to have the tv left on to alleviate the issue and that sorted it. Hopefully a fix is on the way, really weird...the tv is a Sony Bravia and internet is 1gb fibre broadband so very strange.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭blockfighter


    Haven't come across that issue once after many hours of use. Odd.



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