Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

No big loss if I'm honest. A shame because Ragnorokk showed promise.

Ragnarok was brilliant, but he got the balance of comedy so wrong in Love & Thunder to the point where it completely ruined anything else he was trying to do with the film. Such a waste of Christian Bale, Jane's cancer story, and the idea of all the other gods.

Let's also not forget that New Asgard, after losing their home realm, most of their people and having to re-settle on Earth, then losing probably another half their population in the Blip for 5 years, decide this was a good idea...

lads, whatever happened to the Kraven movie? did it ever come out?

2024! jaysus.

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Probably. Ragnarok skirted along the line of being a bit over the top and ridiculous. But he managed to keep just about on the right side of that line. With Love And Thunder, he didn't so much go over that line, but catapulted over it. If he hadn't already had a successful and very popular Thor movie under his belt, I'd be surprised he would have even got to finish it, given the absolute state of it. Anyone else would have probably been fired.

DoA? That does not apply to the MCU, at all

Apparently The Marvels now looks like it won't ever break $100m in the US and will definitely not break $200m worldwide and probably not even close. It cost $275m to make. Wouldn't want to be the person explaining these losses to the board at Disney!

Tbf Blade is probably Marvel's weirdest property within their catalogue in the sense that he generally has no business being there.

He is generally operating by himself against vampires in his own little corner of things. Outside of Blade series vampires have just never really established themselves much, even years ago during "Twilightmania", Jubilee was made a vampire for a few years, and there was an alternate vampire version of Storm for a few months, but vampires as a species have just never really took off in Marvel for whatever reason.

You must be smoking something. They've done how many versions of the fantastic 4 and they've all been box office and critical disasters. More to the point, absolutely nobody who isn't a marvel comics nerd gives a toss about the characters, because they're demonstrably outdated and uninteresting. The whole enterprise is tainted by the previous attempts. You'd have a cinema going audience being presented with "remember that studio that's lost the ability to write decent films? They're doing a reboot of that series that's already failed 3 times. How much money do you fancy wasting on tickets?"

Can't believe Marvel had the audacity to try reboot Captain America after it already failed the previous time.

(Also applies to the 2003 Hulk film, Spider-Man after the failure of the Andrew Garfield films which also killed their Sinister Six plans, X-Men reboot with First Class after the failure of X-Men 3 and Wolverine Origins, Deadpool after the failure of Wolverine Origins).

The first two F4 films did okay. They weren't great by any stretch, but they were decent and a bit of fun. The latest reboot was just horrible, and plagued with issues far beyond what ended up on the screen. It was doomed from the start.

Neither are indicators on how a reboot within the MCU will do. It's not the characters and whether or not people care about them. Nobody "cared" about Iron Man, Cap or Thor in 2006. But Iron Man was done so well, the stinger at the end hinting towards the Avengers raised more interest in Cap and Thor, and then the rest led to the MCU we know.

If F4 were done well, people could easily care about them again.

2 seasons down.

I'd completely forgotten just how hilarious pre-framework Fitz was, granted he was still funny after but more as a straight man for Enoch/Deke, but pre-Framework Fitz is priceless.