Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Distressing content.

A UNRWA school bombed from the air

No excuse for that behaviour. Any idea what the debate was about?

You are the person claiming someone was beheaded so it is up to you to prove your claim.

Discovery of a bone is not proof of beheading.

The refusal to allow independent accountability or journalism speaks volumes.

It's been my view all along and I've posted it here several times already, that it's not over until it's over, and all this emphasis that finding a Hamaz command centre underneath the hospital is the be all and end all of it. They have barely scratched the surface (literally) of these tunnels, there's reportedly somewhere between 3 and 5 hundred Klms of them to be searched. Some as deep as 3 hundred feet. And most of them will not be searched, even into the future if / when Hamaz is defeated because of booby traps. Meanwhile the world is rejoicing "Yippee, Israel lying propaganda now exposed, no Hamaz command center under the Hospital." and so it goes. But (big BUT) supposing, say in 2- or 3-weeks' time that the IDF does find undeniable evidence that Hamas was using the tunnels not only as a command centre, but also producing and storing large quantities of weapons? Medical facilities? That would turn the whole ballgame upside down. I've heard it said that the Tunnels equal the London Underground in terms of size and complexity. Now just imagine what can be done in a place like that. For sure, I would not rule out the IDF finding indisputable evidence that Hamaz was using the tunnels.

As for US continuing unwavering support for Israel, seems very like it, but then again, with American politics, who really knows? As for Israel giving a ****...they don't, end of story. As far as they are concerned, 6 million of them were exterminated by Hitler, and that's not going to happen again ever. And that shapes their attitude. The fact that they have been forced to fight several wars with their nearest Neighbours since the foundation of the state of Israel and presently they are under threat again of total destruction just serves to reinforce their beliefs determines their actions.

What context do you need he was screaming about doing October 7th again and again

It's a well-known figure of speech and does not especially apply to the situation in Gaza. Have you ever heard the expression " Don't give up the day job"? same meaning, and not to be taken literally.

But on the subject of Gaza unemployment figures, and applicable everywhere ( Syria,Afghanistan,Pakistan etc) in Country's with high unemployment figures, you will find large numbers of people, (able bodied men especially) joining the likes of Hamaz, ISIS, Al-Quaida, Taleban etc. many not out of any great religious conviction (but outwardly they have to maintain the appearances of the devout) but solely because it's a means of supporting their families. It's the only income available. That has applied for many years in Gaza and applies there now too. They work for Hamaz, and when they are finished, walk back out onto the street, and go home to their families. All perfectly normal looking and above board.

The sick thing is that, for some on here, actual video of bodies of kids strewn around rooms today is less important than fabricated tales on beheaded babies from over a month ago.

You can't bring back the dead people, but you can stop more from being unnecessarily killed. Surely that would be the priority for most reasonable people?

Haven't seen even the IDF come out with this nonsense that most people are working for Hamas.

The furthest day go is implying that because Hamas got 44% of the vote in elections 16 years ago that everyone in Gaza supports them, which is BS in and of itself, but to suggest that a significant number of the men work for them as you are doing is without basis in any sort of factual evidence as afar as I can see.

I googled about the UCD thing. Here is a Palestinian looking fella getting assaulted just before the other fella kicked off

It looks like the white haired fella tried to unfurl some T-shirt which was snatched off him

5 weeks ago, Israel told everyone in Northern Gaza to move south, for their own safety.

They then said that Hamas was sheltering in the Al Shifa hospital which they then raided and found no legitimate evidence that this was the case.

Now, they are telling people in southern Gaza to move again, for their own safety.

They have also now started to say that the real location of Hamas operations is at a hospital in south Gaza.

They are clearing the Gaza strip as they carry out their Genocide. Israel is a rogue state.

So far, the IDF have only searched an extremely small area of tunnels beneath the hospital and basically, only scratched the surface. It's also very possible that if Hamas had been using the tunnel directly under the hospital, then it would have been "cleaned of any real evidence before the attack on the 7th. Hamaz knew very well what would happen after the attack and planned for such events. The IDF knew very well some areas of the tunnels, the part that they had built themselves, but the newer additions? That I'm not so sure about, but time will tell.

From the safety, security and invisibility of working hundreds of klms of tunnels buried between 2 & 3 hundred feet below ground, sure you could. Hamaz has moved equipment, men and supplies, and at their leisure at that. No problem. Bring in the night shift. Thats not a joke by the way. How do you think that hundreds and hundreds klms of tunnels were built???

Whether its possible or not for Israel to be defeated, does not matter. What matter is what Israeli's believe, and if they think they are under threat, that's enough for them. Just look at how long Putin has held power, all based on the lie that he is saving Russians from the Ukrainian Nazi's?

They've no army, no airforce, no navy, no tanks, no artillery, no supply lines.

This isn't a war, it's a brutal show of strength against a guerilla organization.

And Israel is providing recruits fir that organization for the next 20 years.

If you were a 25 yr old man whose entire family was killed in a missile attack, would you wait for future elections to try and vote Hamas out as you're being told to do by your attackers and their funders?

Or would you pick up a rocket if you had the chance? I know what I would do. And all of the ubernationalists in western nations are very vocal about the need to defend their own respective countries, and yet they are denouncing Palestinians for actually doing so in practice.