BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

The Balinteer void will eventually be filled with the high frequency A2/A4 (and the lower frequency 80), but that won't happen until 2025 at this rate.

Surprised there wasn't a temporary route solution, even making the 161 7 days and slightly upping the frequency. I get that there probably isn't enough drivers to be able to even consider this, however.

Most people use apps and whatnot these days so they'll figure it out. Once you do it once, you'll do it again.

Old people can learn also.

Most people using the bus follow the same few routes anyway. In and out to work or town or school or college or to the shopping centre.

People will learn quickly.

It won't be perfect but the idea is that overall it's a better service for the city which I believe it definitely will be.

There will obviously be lots of complaints that elderly or disabled people have lost their bus service that was near their house and brought them straight to town etc. This is unfortunate obviously but you can't please everyone.

The S6 will get you to the old Notre Dame School beside the Luas bridge, a ten minute walk from the centre. I know it's not as close as where the 175 gets you now in Dundrum, but it's not far off. It will be even closer once they upgrade the Dundrum junction under the Dundrum LAP, should cut the walk down as bus stops will moved closer to the junction.

To get to UCD from Knocklyon/Ballycullen, instead of walking 20 minutes to the S6, you could take the 15 from Ballycullen to the stop across from the Blue Haven pub on the Firhouse Road and change directly onto the S6 there to go straight to UCD, no extra cost under the TFI leap card 90 minute fare.

Same goes for getting to Dundrum from Ballycullen, get the 15 to the Blue Haven and change onto the S6.

I know there's a change involved, but the S6 will be alot more frequent than the 75 or the 175. The 15 is also very frequent so there shouldn't be a long wait for a connecting bus at the Blue Haven back up to Ballycullen.

In Rathfarnham, alot of people are delighted to see the end of the 17 and the 75. The 17 in particular has been notoriously unreliable for years, particularly for going beyond Dundrum to UCD because of the very elongated route and traffic. The higher frequency and more direct route on the S6 is being really welcomed.

There were a lot of oversights in the original plan iirc. For example a lot of peripheral areas were completely omitted from the network entirely for example there was no replacement at all for the 185 in Kilgarron in Enniskerry.

We did think of that. Hopefully it will work if the capacity issues on the 15 are sorted. We’re the third stop on the route and very often the bus is full by the time it gets to us. I’ve been left standing there myself often enough going to work.

Yeah I agree. It seems like an oversight.

Maybe the data supported this decision though. It's hard to know.

Or maybe it's compromise they had to make for other reasons.

I'm pretty certain Jarrett Walker's consultancy produced a report at the start showing data and heatmaps of busy spots.

I'll try to find it.

Maybe speed of the S8 is important so they took it along a faster route, rather than through Dundrum.

In fairness, the journey times are as bad as they are mostly due to traffic issues. In the original plans where BRT was touted, you could concievably have upgrade to Luas on the main radials relatively easily with proper grade seperation.

I'm sad that the 14 isn't due to get a bumped frequency any time soon, was hoping it would be bundled into the souther orbital changes. The 80 is very odd routing and v much looks like it is there to patch the holes left between the orbitals.

If you read the "Choices report" here, it might shed insight.

I'm still a little bit confused as to what will occur for the L25 along Benamore Road from Sunday week.

There was a new bus stop marking installed at the boundary wall of the Avoca Hockey Pitch in Newtownpark Avenue. I posted a photograph of it here on boards a few months back. If all of the Dublin Bus stop poles are going to be replaced for the L25 route from Dún Laoghaire to Dundrum by-pass; I would imagine either that the southbound bus stop located near the traffic lights at Rowanbyrn would be removed altogether which would move the 7b/7d there to the new bus stop at the hockey pitch or reserve that new stop for the L25 only with the 7b/7d left with the current stop at Rowanbyrn.

There is no official information coming from either the NTA or Dublin Bus, who will operate the L25, so far as to what will happen to this section of the route from Sunday of next week.

I still seeing some confusing information about the S8 timetable being provided on the GAI website. It has a stop listing on it called National School. What does that term mean in plain english?

When I got that bit of info from it; I would have assumed that the S8 would still have a stop provided for them at Guardian Angels Church car park with the NS that is located next to it. The S8 also has a new stop or bus shelter being built installed across the road from the front entrance of Newpark Comprehensive School.

What I'm asking here is does the S8 timetable imply that the route would stop opposite Newpark School which would ultimately skip Guardian Angels Church/School and than continue onto the next stop which is all the way down opposite the Butler's Pantry at the very top part of Temple Hill in Blackrock?

There is no TFI bus stop equipment installed yet for the S8 route outside Dunnes Stores at the Playwright.

Will there be a bus pole or bus shelter installed there in time from Sunday of next week? I walked past that stop located on the opposite side of the old bus shelter on Marian Park while heading into Dunnes on Thursday evening. The new bus stop outside Dunnes just has new kerbing installed there for now.

I also have a theory that the bus stops located in Monkstown Village and Frascati Shopping Centre in Blackrock should have the 703 timetable included on the TFI bus stops instead of having them listed on the Aircoach bus stops which are also in place in these locations. It will probably look very cluttered with having two stops there at Monkstown Village with one stop on either side of the road in use and the other one not in use at all.

There are no booklets being distributed in Newtownpark Avenue yet. I suppose they will come in later this week.

You can get off w4 in blanch village. There's a right turn at the lights in the centre of the village and the road goes under the n3 and into the hospital. The 220 used this route at one stage.