Any 530e owners out there?

Quin_Dub · 20-11-2023 4:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121392217#Comment_121392217

It definitely makes a difference to the range you can get from a single charge , you will average ~30kms from the larger battery and closer to 20 from the smaller one.

Whether the savings from that cover the cost of the car over the time you plan to keep it is another thing.

If for example that extra range allowed you to make the daily commute on Electric only , then the savings might add up.

Other than the battery and some small cosmetic changes I don't think there's a huge amount of difference between a 2018 and a 2019.

joe1303l · 20-11-2023 9:26pm

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Be very careful with the pedigree when buying one of these. A lot of them for sale are ex-UK cars, a handful will inevitably be clocked, crashed etc. An ex-company car might be worth seeking out. Less likely to have been plugged in all the time if the driver has a fuel card available for free petrol. Main dealer service history also handy to have if you’re trying get a warranty claim or a goodwill contribution out of BMW Ireland.

Gumbo · 20-11-2023 10:10pm

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There’s a couple of things that go on these.

KLE Unit. About €2k to fix.

Aux Heater. About €1900 to fix.

Vanos Actuators/valves. About €1k to €1500 if both go.

O2 Sensors. About €500ish.

I know of one 530e, full complete bmw service history and all of the above went out of warranty with less than 90k km on the clock. BMW offered nothing despite constant emails and calls complaining and listing out the list of other BMW’s the owner had in their family ownership.

Most, if not all of the above can be done by a good independent. The KLE needs coding though.

dowling06 · 21-11-2023 10:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121392132#Comment_121392132

I believe the bigger battery is on the LCI models which you can find the comparison here:

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/04/28/2021-bmw-5-series-lci-a-short-comparison-with-the-pre-lci-generation/

It also had the iDrive 7 compared to the 6 on the pre-LCI. That has android auto after a software update whereas the 6 only has Apple carplay. According to wiki the LCI is 292 hp compared to 248 hp on the pre-LCI. I guess this is from the bigger battery as the engines are the same.

Saying all that I went for the 2018 as I got a good price on it.

dowling06 · 21-11-2023 10:28pm

Can anyone let me know what prices people have paid recently on 530e's? When I put it into the VRT calculator it's fixed at 9% which is more than 50g/km but all 530e's should be less than 50 from what I can tell.

mickdw · 21-11-2023 11:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121398005#Comment_121398005

There are bigger battery and new dash versions of the pre lci from 2019.

mickdw · 21-11-2023 11:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121398025#Comment_121398025

Don't select 530E on the drop down menu.

Select 530 then go for hybrid and it will list 7 or 8 versions of the 530e.

It comes out with a 7 percent vrt.

Steviemak7 · 22-11-2023 11:13am

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Thanks very helpful

TJJP · 23-11-2023 7:56pm

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The 'free' Remote Services package mentioned earlier on this thread seems to be there too.

The Remote Package lets you control and monitor your BMW remotely.

Gumbo · 23-11-2023 10:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121407115#Comment_121407115

I have this for life on my 2017 30e.

Can open, close etc

lafors · 28-11-2023 11:48am

Bought a low milage ~40k km 171 530e, fairly high spec I think as it's been brought in from Japan.

Comfort And Interior Equipment

S416 Roller Sun Visor, Rear Lateral, S423 Floor Mats Velours, S459 Seat Adjustment, Electric, With Memory, S465 Through-Loading System, S488 Lumbar Support, Driver And Passenger, S4AW Instrument Panel Sensatec, S4HA Seat Heating, Front And Rear, S4LQ Poplar Grain Grey Acc.Pearl Lust.Chrome, S4NE Blow-By Heater, S4T8 Outside Mirror With Auto Dip, S4U9 Acoustic Pedestrian Protection, S4UR Ambient Interior Light

Multimedia

S601 TV Function, S609 Navigation System Professional, S610 Head-Up Display, S650 CD Drive, S676 HiFi Speaker System, S6AC Intelligent Emergency Call, S6AE Teleservices, S6AK Connected Drive Services, S6AN Concierge Services, S6NS Comfort Telephony W/ Enhanced Smartphone, S6U8 BMW Gesture Control, S6WB Multifunctional Instrument Display, S7S2 Luxury Line

Driver Assistance And Lightning

S534 Automatic Air Conditioning, S548 Kilometre Speedo, S552 Adaptive LED Headlight, S5A1 LED Fog Lights, S5AC High-Beam Assistant, S5AL Active Protection, S5AT Driving Assistant Plus, S5DN Parking Assistance System Plus

Wheels And Drive

S205 Automatic Transmission, S212 Equipment, Brake Syst. Country-Specific, S230 Extra Package, EU-Speciifc, S255 Sports Leather Steering Wheel, S258 Tyres With Runflat Properties, S28V BMW LA Wheel W-Spoke 632

Environment And Safety

S302 Alarm System, S316 Automatic Trunk Lid Mechanism, S322 Comfort Access, S323 Soft-Close-Automatic Doors, S346 Chrome Line Exterieur, S807 National Version Japan, S845 Acoustic Fasten Seat Belt Reminder, S852 Language Version Japanese, S876 Radio Frequency 315 MHz, S8BK Charging Socket Export, S8KL Oil Service Interval 15,000 Km/12 Months, S8S3 Automatic Locking During Starting, S8SX Providersteuerung Telematik, S8TD Decoding Speed Limit Info

A few questions for those of you who have one,

BTW it's a type 1 port on the car, I've already found a type 2 from a breakers so I'll be switching the port/internal cable over myself at some stage though I have a T2->T1 convertor for my zappi at home.

Re the idrive software, what's the newest s/w that anyone has on their pre battery upgrade model? Can it be updated at home or did everyone go to a dealer?

Second one, I've not downloaded the app or set up a login yet as i'm afraid it may remove some functions the car has. Is this the way BMWs do it (our MB EQC400 removed a load of things like android auto/carplay as soon as we made a login and switched user to us)?

Lastly are there any additions to the car anyone would recommend, internal/external, software additions, etc.?

Thanks

EDIT: Actually I just checked on the BMW website and it says my software is fully up to date.

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Evilbart · 30-11-2023 12:42pm

Hi my remote services have stopped working the last couple of days/weeks!

Typical as the cold weather just starts so I can no longer pre heat the car in the mornings. BMW 530e 2018 uk import was working fine since I bought it two years ago.

anyone else having problems this week?

please see error below.

I have reset the Idrive system 3 times as suggested online but nothing I do has resolved the problem.

thanks

joe1303l · 30-11-2023 8:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121437000#Comment_121437000

Might be worth checking the 12V battery ?

SweetCaliber · 07-12-2023 11:38pm

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I had similar issues and had to change the Teleservices 8 volt battery up under the headliner. Apparently they dont like the cold and have a limited recharge cycle.

90 euro from BMW.... No issues since changing it though. I was also getting emergency phone system not available notifications in the car on the dash btw (couldnt get rid of it). Not sure if you are seeing similar?

Rew · 08-12-2023 12:05am

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Mines gone too, 20e from Amazon

SoupyNorman · 09-12-2023 11:47am

I got the 191 model with the smaller battery. It's my first ever hybrid so didn't know what was what really.

It's a beautiful car, most comfortable and quiet cabin I've ever driven in but the battery is just meh... barely 20km range now in winter and the restricted boot space is annoying.

Probably just go diesel next time.

09-12-2023 11:58am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121474238#Comment_121474238

What mileage is on it? My 2018 with 40k km on it gets 36km range in summer and since it's gotten cold I'm getting 32km. This is suburban driving no M50 etc

Gumbo · 09-12-2023 12:49pm

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My 2017 will show max 42 in summer but never gets it. 30ish max. 20km in winter.

But I knew this when buying so no surprises.

SoupyNorman · 09-12-2023 1:53pm

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65km.

When I fully charge in winter it will say 26-28 but 2 mins down the road it's dropped 5k.

Rew · 09-12-2023 3:07pm

I find in comfort mode the battery handles all the stop start and the petrol the crusiing speeds, tops up the mpg a good bit on average. For school run or spins to the supermarket its all battery.

PureBred · 09-12-2023 7:03pm

Just got my 192 guys, thanks for all the advice. Delighted with it so far. Will take a whkle to get used to all the gizmos. Also thanks to @buzzerxx I now seem to have everything in the app unlocked now.

09-12-2023 7:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121474664#Comment_121474664

Is that with the heater on or off? The heater eats battery

09-12-2023 7:40pm

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I have never bothered to actually measure the distance but in summer I can into and out of work into Dublin city on battery alone with 4km left and it's a round trip of 32km . So far this winter I run out of battery about 2km from home

Gumbo · 09-12-2023 7:44pm

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herself drives it 90% of the time. I’m BEV since 2012 so I reskin I could extract more from it than her 😂

09-12-2023 8:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121476331#Comment_121476331

People give out about these small range hybrids but its mad how much people actually need for day to day compared to what they think they need. If this car had a battery range of 70km instead of what I am getting, I reckon a tank of fuel would last me a year and it's a small tank

Buddy Bubs · 09-12-2023 9:08pm

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The new one does have that 70kms plus range, and it's 20k cheaper than full electric i5. Which would buy a lot of petrol the odd time you'd need it

Gumbo · 09-12-2023 9:30pm

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She currently gets about 2 months from a rank. €65 to fill. We charge every night of course.

SummerK · 11-12-2023 10:13am

Mine is a 12kwh unit and I have been getting around 20km the last few days, and the lowest I got was 16km last week which is unusually low this year. Use heating set to 19 deg 50% of time and increasing to 20/21 deg further reduces range. Summers I get around 35-40km, but I wish at least 50km would have made me plug 2-3 times a week.

Quin_Dub · 11-12-2023 10:17am

Preconditioning makes a big difference in the winter.

Use the app and set your departure time , it then heats the car and the battery off the mains before you get in , so you don't need to run the A/C as much to warm the car up and de-mist the screens etc. and the battery is up to temperature before you start driving..

Vikings · 14-12-2023 9:53pm

A hypothetical situation as they say.

A 5 year old (182 reg) PHEV with approx. 150k kms, from a reputable used car dealer costing approx. €25k.

After 7 months & 7k kms develops a fault with the hybrid battery that could render the EV element of the car non functioning. (Potential repairs anywhere in the region of €2k-€8k)

Any expectations of comeback from the dealer?

Miscreant · 14-12-2023 11:49pm

Doubt it.

Make and model?

Is the battery still under warranty?

User1998 · 14-12-2023 11:51pm

Hybrid/electrical items are usually excluded from dealer warranties

zg3409 · 15-12-2023 12:11am

Did dealer give warranty or not?

Vikings · 15-12-2023 9:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121496967#Comment_121496967

Car is a 530e. I believe manufacturer warranty on the battery went to 6 years / 100k Kms whichever came first. Car was a UK import and a non brand dealer so hasn't been near BMW Ireland for any goodwill to be considered.

I didn't mention the warranty initially in part because of the quote above, but also to discuss the consumer rights aspect of the purchase. Failure of the hybrid battery does not fall under normal wear and tear and I don't believe 7 months / 7k Kms is a reasonable time for the car to be fully functioning as expected.

I'm awaiting a full diagnosis of the issue and potential solutions but I suppose I was looking for opinions on how much the EV drive train of a PHEV is considered in terms of the overall function of the car. Car can obviously still be driven but to have no EV changes the very reason for buying the car in the first place.

User1998 · 15-12-2023 9:58am

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The dealer in question obviously gave you a warranty yes? I assume 6 months or 12 months? If the warranty excludes electrical parts and its been over 6 months then I can’t see you having any consumer rights. Its a 6 year old car with 150k km on the clock. Not a brand new car. Thats just my opinion tho

Vikings · 15-12-2023 10:51am

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Yes a 6 month but as you say would not cover electrical ) hybrid battery either way.

Funnily, the hypothetical symptoms have gone away today.

I've paid for bimmerlink and ran it for errors, with a few indicating some charge loss in a single cell module so it may not be as catastrophic as initially feared.

Gumbo · 15-12-2023 10:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121497697#Comment_121497697

What is the issue?

KLE?

Aux Heater?

Something else?

joe1303l · 15-12-2023 11:00am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121497697#Comment_121497697

Unlikely, you’re on your own I’d say.

amdsquad · 15-12-2023 10:15pm

Can someone compare and give an opinion if this is a sign of healthy battery on full charge ?

Hi guys.

2017 530e with 50.000km from Frank Keane Blackrock. Battery started to loose capacity after last winter. Brought car in for warranty repair. 6 months later got car back with 3/6 cells replaced and gained range from 14km to 18km. Full charge takes up 5.5 kWh as opposed to my friends around 8 kWh in my BMW app. In mean time my warranty ended and they don’t seem to see any faults with over 30% capacity loss that should be covered by 6 year warranty in a first place. They restored around 10% of capacity (3-4km) and call it a day. I think I’m bouncing off the walls now and won’t be able to sort it out without solicitor.

Do you think I have a court case for false advertising and not being able to deliver 30% capacity loss protection ? Or is is waste of time.

Cloudio9 · 23-12-2023 2:50pm

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Mine is 182 with 90,000 km and the battery takes 8 kwh charge from 0% so that doesn't look great. I checked my charging history for the same date as above and the range said 23 km.

I doubt you'd get far with the legal route. Bad experience with warranty recently with Frank Keane. They tried to wiggle out of warranty as it expired between the time the car was booked in and them seeing it two weeks later.

BrookieD · 14-01-2024 3:38pm

about to pull the trigger on a 2018 G30 for 27k, has 88km on the clock and came in from UK as far as i can tell. excellent car to drive and having had a LExus IS300h for a while i like hyrbids so hoping for more of the same from this with a high electric range. my commut is a 66km round trip, Ratoath to Parkwest, So house to N2 on Electric, N2 onto M50 to red cow will be about 100km max an then electric from redcow to office. Free charge in here and then return home again with same set up. Thinking petrol only for the duel carriageways so should be good. Need to confirm if the G30 is standard with Apple Carplay should have that confirmed tomorrow as we both have iphones so thats a must. looking forard to getting back behind a 5 series, last one i had was a 2011 520d

joe1303l · 14-01-2024 4:10pm

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If you could stretch to a 2019 car with the 12kWh battery like this one, you should save yourself quite a bit on fuel especially over the winter months. Warranty should be a consideration also as these are expensive cars to fix if they go wrong.

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/35360174

"192 "REG / LONGER RANGE 12KWH BATTERY /APPLE CAR

PureBred · 14-01-2024 7:16pm

Ya i bought a 192 reg with bigger battery before xmas. Getting approx 32km from battery in this weather. Preheating the car when plugged in is a must to get this.

joe1303l · 14-01-2024 8:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121615392#Comment_121615392

The battery on the 2018 version is about 30% smaller (9.2kWh). Presumably it’s equivalent range would be 24-25km in the same conditions at best.

Gumbo · 14-01-2024 9:14pm

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About 18-20 in this weather and 30’ish in summer.

15-01-2024 9:45pm

I was seriously thinking about one of these from the north. After reading the issues some of you have had I think I will just go full EV.

12kw at a public charger is nearly 6 euro for 30ish kms. It is more expensive than petrol to charge these in winter.

Gumbo · 16-01-2024 12:41am

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Never in a million years would I charge a 530e at a public charger. Silly.

buzzerxx · 16-01-2024 12:43am

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Are you sure the target value in battery charge control (charge limitation) is not set to a low percentage like 60% or something?

WacoKid · 16-01-2024 9:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121615926#Comment_121615926

Went out last night with the car/battery cold but fully charged. Heated seats on and I'd say I got about 10km out of it!

Gumbo · 16-01-2024 10:09am

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Not surprised in that weather. But I also have a BEV so can drive it very economically compared to the missus!

Any 530e owners out there?

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