Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

There are a tiny number of far right agitators travelling around the country trying to link in with the protests. The media know this but still broadly label the protests and the locals as far right. It makes for more dramatic entertaining news reports I suppose but it is lies. The politicians of course hide behind these convenient lies.

Well yeah. Standing outside centres to block access or screaming at people to get out, protesting outside where people are living is far right and racist

I think it's a bit more serious than that. Those who have investigated the phenomenon suspect it's these far right agitators who often initially organise the protests (via use of social media) but then try and pretend that the protests were organic and instigated by 'concerned locals'.

No, that is absolutely not true in the rural areas. I can’t speak for the Dublin protests but the rural ones are almost exclusively initiated by concerned locals.

I could actually well believe that. Certainly the protest in Inch, Co. Clare did look like it was organised by locals, ditto with the one in Fethard.

The ones in cities are a bit more dodgy though and very possibly have outside involvement.

The PRSI increase will help people who have lost their jobs receive higher social welfare payments.

As long as they have contributed for at least 5 years, a person could more than double their welfare payments (vs todays rates) for the first 3 months following redundancy.

If SF get into power, you may be seeing a lot of takers.

You could probably count on one hand the number of real refugees coming here, most of them are economic migrants.

Sure even Michael McDowell who is a former Justice Minister said most of the stories they spin are BS.

Meanwhile, while we are busy calling farmers and local communities far right, the actual far right are celebrating another victory in Europe.

Yep. I don't think most of the voters for these parties are particularly far right. But because anybody who has doubts about unlimited immigration or is worried about certain cohorts of migrants is shouted down, where do they have left to turn? Most people exist somewhere in the middle of the two extremes but nobody is listening to them.

The far right in every country pretty much have being anti-immigration as the central plank of their manifesto though. It's not as if they have a lot of radical policies covering a whole range of subjects - immigration control is their main focus (they are obsessed with the idea of the main ethnic grouping in their country being 'diluted' by admitting too many outsiders).

Id agree with this.

Far Right Party expected to win the most seats in Dutch elections tonight.

There is clearly a far right upsurge across Europe and I think its more than reasonable to say that all these people, the continent over, cannot all be outright racists and extremists.

There is too much "them and us" Left Vs Right.

Where is the empathy on either side to strive for a command ground.

Thats the sad part, to me at least.