Republic of Ireland Team 2023/24 [old thread]

Carsley hasn't done anything yet. hope he doesn't get the job.

Its not about if there are good managers in the LOI, could Carsley dominate the league and do well in europe? there is nothing to suggest he would in my opinion.

Remember the debacle that got Kenny the job in the first place? Mick McCarthy was touted for the job and there was a ground swell of support for Kenny as someone who knew the setup, the underage coming through etc. It was a classic Delaney "all things to all people" stroke, give it to mick for 2 years then Kenny. Delaney was some stroker

They were absolute shïtbox jobs though, with both sides destined for relegation. He was a last gasp hit and hope attempt in both cases. And speaking of West Brom - Steve Bruce took them over later on, and brought them from 6th in the Championship down to 22nd before getting sacked.

As you say though, it's an uninspiring grim enough lot regardless - hopefully the FAI lads are thinking outside the box a bit, but I wouldn't be terribly confident in that :-/

The reality is that anyone we're credibly linked with will have some asterisk next to their name for why they'd be a bad choice - because anyone without that asterisk is by default out of our league. Another that comes to mind is Michael Beale - another much vaunted young 'supercoach', who did well as an assistant at Liverpool and Rangers, and then in the top job with QPR, before falling under the pressure at Rangers. Though I'd guess he'll get a better paid Championship job before too long.

Venables could still do a job. Great shout.

The next draw is going to be really tough. Fourth seeds presumably?

Christ.

Generally depressing the names that are being mentioned. But with the state of the FAI I think we would be lucky to get some of the names on the list.

Keane and Carsley should not be in the running imo. Carsley is too inexperienced to take over a squad like ours, while Keane is too risky for many reasons.

Allardyce or Bruce would be a regressive appointment.

That leaves the likes of Lennon, Dean Smith and Hughton.

As poor as those 3 potentially are, one of them would be our best bet

Third. 12 groups of 4 or 5, group winners automatically through, 12 second places into playoffs with 4 best nations league group finishers.

Kenny is gone, there is nothing to blame him for anymore.

Keane is a depressing appointment - out of management for years and a terrible temperament with players. Can’t see that going well at all.

Carsley is at least young and in a form of international management, bit of a question mark as to how he’d do with a team that doesn’t have the breadth of talent as England, but would probably deserve his chance.

The old heads like Allerdyce I wouldn’t be huge fans of, unless they accepted a heavily incentivised contract(e.g low base pay with set bonuses based on finishing above seeding/qualification). Even still I could see them jumping ship for a championship job if one came up.

Do you not think Kenny was hungry? look how that turned out. Kenny dominated the LOI for years and got into the Europa league and did well when he got there, Carsley did well with an underage team but it is England, I could probably manage them and win games.

I previously thought about Hughton but even if he's the right candidate decided by the FAI, he's under contract at Ghana, the country where his father was born and leaving there to take over the Irish job would be a step down tbf. He's also under pressure after a series of poor results, losing 1-0 to Comeros on Tuesday. The only way we'd get him (if we wanted) would be if Ghana sacked him. Not sure we want a recently failed manager, hardly inspire confidence.

Lennon is a no from me. The Irish job has a huge amount of pressure and I can't see Lennon doing well under pressure. Very decorated as a manager but a lot of the Celtic success came during the demise of Rangers when barely any side could lay a glove on Celtic. Lennon then lost the 10 in a row and left halfway through the season, huge pressure got to him.

I'm intrigued by Carsley and disagree he's too inexperienced. Yes at a senior level but he has an impressive CV working at City and winning the u21s for England during the Summer. We've a very very young side in international terms, isn't that the type of manager we need who has experience working and getting the best out of young players? The England 21s for the most part are already experienced PL players and would walk into our national squad - Cole Palmer, Rico Lewis, Anthony Gordon, Levi Colwill, James Trafford, Liam Delap, Harvey Elliott, Tino Livramento, Morgan Gibbs White, Cameron Archer, etc. Every single one will have some sort of an ego, huge transfer valuation (more than a lot of our crop) and on high salaries. He'll be able to deal with our lads no bother given their age and already has lots of PL (captaining sides) and international experience so ticks a huge amount of boxes. Huge amount more than Kenny so already an upgrade, plus the experience in working with the FA. This might influence any decision for players on the fence to declare for us over any UK country if they're eligible.

Whilst he is not exactly 'up and coming' at the age of 49, my understanding for his lack of club level managerial experience might point to his family commitments. He turned down the Brentford job in 2015 because of this and most likely, international management might suit him better than the day to day work life balance at any club.

He'd be top of the pile for me.

Carsley’s daughter has Down’s syndrome as far as I know. Hence the increased family commitments.

It's his son and yes would explain the family commitments and relative lack of club managerial experience. A very valid reason tbf.

They should just put all the posters names on this thread into a hat and pick one as manager. As good a plan as any. Since most seem to think they know more than a former Irish internationals who have managed at a much higher level than the previous incumbent and some have even got silverware in the second tier in England.

I think many on here are too young to have any sense and are blinded by optics/media caricatures to have any common sense. And view anything older than 10 years ago as prehistoric. But that the zeitgeist of the thread.

Ironically, the same eejits of Irish fans are the ones to blame for Kenny getting the job in the first place. And the eejitry media (namely OTB), instead of accepting they were very wrong, instead have created a narrative why it is not the managers fault. All look like right clowns altogether. John Delaney must be laughing his head off somewhere.

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Ted Lasso, anyone? Whoever it is, you'd hope that at least they'll put in some semblance of a structure on the side, we we're just so open under Kenny it was unreal.

You'd feel sorry for Kenny, but he was clearly out of his depth at International level. Though It's hard to see who could plug so many holes without going down the Trappatoni route of mass defence.

If people are backing keane for the job then god love them

Any manager in the world would have brought through the players Kenny brought through. Who else were they gonna pick, I don’t get this praise. Ogbene is the only wildcard I can see that Kenny picked.

The stats say Kenny brought in as many new faces as the previous managers.

I thought this had been put to bed tbh.

Mick never picked Long once, Kenny brought him back in. Kenny also used Randolph for the First Nations league campaign and also used Collins about 4 times…so your point isn’t really viable

What has Robbie Keane done to deserve it?