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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,078 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    I haven't watched Monsters since it originally came out, but remember having similar feelings about it. IIRC Edwards didn't write a full script or a full treatment for the characters, instead providing an outline and key events/information to be delivered and leaving the rest of it to the actors to improvise on the day.

    Everything I've read about The Creator tells me that at this point I don't want to watch future Gareth Edwards efforts unless a much better writer than he is has written the screenplay. Impressive visuals only carry a film so far.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Chris Weitz co-wrote The Creator but it seemed like more Edwards than anything (not that Weitz's CV is especially stellar). I liked The Creator for at least being a Hollywood movie whose view on AI wasn't of it being inscrutable, or malevolent but broadly friendly - and that coexistence was entirely possible.

    As to Monsters, telling me it was improvised now makes a tonne of sense about why it all felt so loose and aimless. Cos it was! Neither actor had any sort of charisma or wit to pull it off, and like I said their status just make the story a bit accidentally obnoxious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    A rewatch The Devil's Advocate (1997) on Blu Ray. Firstly, I can't believe it's 26 years since this came out and I watched in for the first time in the cinema. At the time I thought what I assume most people thought - it's not bad, but Pacino is OTT and Keanu is well, Keanu. A rewatch was surprisingly rewarding, and far better than I had expected it to be. Pacino's is great in this - yes he's OTT but given the character what else would you expect? And surprisingly, Keanu is not as bad as I remembered him being. There's some dated scenes for sure (the special effects at the balcony water feature etc.), but the scene where Keanu is about to walk to Pacino on the empty streets of NY is pretty cool. It's easy to nit pick some of the flaws of this movie, but overall, it was a rather enjoyable 2+hours. It won't be another 26 years before I rewatch.

    A solid 7/10, maybe even a 7.5!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Some great quotes in that film.

    • John Milton There's this beautiful girl just fu@ked me forty ways from Sunday... we're done, she's walking to the bathroom, she's trying to walk, she turns... she looks... it's me. Not the Trojan army just fucked her. Little ol' me. She has this look on her face like: "How the hell did that happen?"
    • John Milton I'm the hand up Mona Lisa's skirt. I'm a surprise, Kevin. They don't see me coming: that's what you're missing.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Meant to put this in my earlier post on The Devil’s Advocate but forgot - there’s a scene where Keanu visits a wealthy property developer in his home…..and guess whose apartment they shoot it in? Donald Trump’s - I know this as I’ve seen it previously, it is incredibly garish, pretty much everything is gold. I wonder how deliberate that location selection was?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,601 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Just watched Champions with Woody Harrelson, a warm good feeling film, not the usual Farrelly funny but has some funny moments and a cast that works well together



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Ran (1985)

    Kurosawa dipped into Shakespeare once more with King Lear acting as the primary inspiration this time. And while I've warmed to this the more I've thought about it after the fact, just as a story-driven experience I'd rate this below how Throne of Blood or The Bad Sleep Well managed with their own interpretations of the Bard. It was another one of those slightly intangible responses where all the ingredients seemed to be there - and on an intellectual level I fully engaged with the film as a true technical marvel - but just something about the emotionality of it all left me indifferent. Maybe I should blame Shakespeare - not Kurosawa - cos if the structure of the story had flaws you could arguably put them at the feet of the playwright and not the director.

    Regardless of my own emotional response to the story, this was one of Kurosawa's more visually striking epics: one where the use of colour was so vibrant and singular, everything felt painterly without dipping into excess; these were deft strokes by a master late in career, most strikingly used during those spectacular battle scenes (just to pause for a second to pour one out for the death of the "cast of thousands" epics), or a pivotal moment near the end that was punctuated with the kind of bright arterial spray we'd later see over & over in Tarantino films. And often all that deep saturation sat against vast landscapes of dark desolation. The volcanic plains of Japan - coupled with the near permanent appearance of the Lear stand-in as a haunted & skeletal figure - made the whole affair seem like it took place on some plain of hell; doomed men grasping over for brief moments of power in a world of ruins and ash. Smouldering castles of former "glory" left to mock an addled king as he struggled to comprehend the familial chaos he caused.

    But within all that sat a script full of coincidences, sudden heel turns and that kind of declarative or expositional dialogue that could only have come from the era of Shakespeare; and while something like Throne of Blood's inspiration had a focused escalation as power slowly unraveled, here the wandering of Lear-Ichimonji seemed to be part of the structure of the film itself, with a slight sense of aimlessness in the whole thing that just stopped me short from being fully gripped by the otherwise solid tale. This kind of story has been scripted better - even if few looked half as good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,565 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    There's problems with all of Kurosawa's movies and 'Ran' is no exception. But it has the greatest scene in any of his films that I've seen. That dialogueless battle scene in the middle of the film is a thing of absolute beauty. I've watched it a ton of times and I'm always impressed.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Hmmm. Now that you mention it, perhaps that's why I found it became such a chore after a while: cos after that battle scene it was quite the drop in acceleration and pace when it just became 'aul Lear'san wandering about aimlessly for an hour.

    What an absolute masterclass in organised chaos that battle scene was; as I said I miss the days when War Movies actually necessitated a shít tonne of extras (or the Yugoslav army if you preferred) to film the battles & do them justice.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Come and See

    One of those films that I've seen talked about a lot and it caught my eye.

    Its intense viewing, even for a war film. I'd describe it as a war film told using lots of tropes from horror films.

    Right from the off, there's a tense atmosphere. Those planes unsettle me just seeing and hearing them. I won't be able to stand near powerlines any time soon. At first, it seems like a fairly straightforward war film but then it starts getting surreal and I started to wonder how much is intentional or from the main character's (Flyora) point of view. As a young teen, I imagine he's struggling to process all that's going on.

    The tone gradually shifts once the camp is abandoned. There seems to be some disconnect between the sound and the images at times and Florya finds ways to distract himself.

    It doesn't get shocking until about 50 minutes in (and its just one quick shot that sets up a whole scene) when they make the trip to the island. I thought it was brilliantly done: build up the tension then release it brutally. By the time the film gets to the village, it starts getting very rushed and traumatic.

    There's also the fact that you don't see the bad guys close up until well into the second half of the film. It has more impact, like in a horror film when the murderer is finally seen.

    Towards the end, the depiction of the villains does stray into almost cartoonish levels but unfortunately I've read enough about the Second World War to know that its not exaggeration: Its very effective at showing the utter depravity and destruction of war.

    The sound is hypnotic and some of the visuals are incredible in it, like the bullets racing across the sky, the fog or the old man on the island. Also the amount of close-ups of Flyora looking straight into his eyes, especially one towards the end where he looks over his shoulder with disgust, making you, the viewer, feel guilty for watching all he has been through.

    The character development is great. The main character goes from a boy playing soldiers, to a recruit dismissed by his comrades, to a scarred witness, to a hardened soldier who's still frightened underneath, he regresses to a child among men in the climax before toughening up again and ending as a committed member of the defence forces.

    Its not at all for the faint-hearted and I wouldn't say I enjoyed its content but it is an incredible film and certainly a cinematic experience. It drew an awful lot of different emotions from me and the final scene and montage summarises a lot of the complexities of war. Highly recommended.



  • Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭monkeyactive


    Ad Astra

    Ad Astra is not a bad auld "realistic" lowish budget sci fi space film. Bit of an apocalypse nowness about it with the sense of a journey towards a final confrontation with a man gone mad out on the edge of the world. Its got a nice moodiness to it and a nice score. There's a deeper archetypal trope at play involving a son rescuing a father , as seen with Pinochhio searching for the whale that swallowed Gipetto.

    I think Brad Pitt was a terrible casting move. Its not that he's particularly bad in it , its just that he's Brad Pitt. Its hard to get immersed in world building on a future Martian outpost etc when Brads big Fat head is on the screen. Also there is a voice over , it's not there often enough to be annoying and I have set against voice overs in film.

    Nice film , Id say it'll morph into a kind of unknown overlooked but beloved cult classic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Winter Light by Ingmar Bergman

    A peak behind the curtain of existential crisis and, perhaps, how people of faith keep going when times are difficult. This film deals with a lot of my own doubts about the meaning of life. I knew what it was about so I wasn't expecting any satisfying answers, though I suppose its open to interpretation in the end.

    Some very strong performances and a delicately, simply directed film.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Panic Room (2002)

    I have to commend a director whose CV has bullishly yo-yoed between near flawless, top-tier cinema for the decade they came out in - and airport thriller trash. Buttressing The Social Network and Zodiac are The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (ignoring Benjamin Button for convenience, though arguably that works as "prestige" drama), and this 2002 film: both pure pulp that never once tried to elevate themselves beyond being seedy, gripping tales - but both directed with the same rigorous flourish we know Fincher brings to the table. Maybe more directors should do this? Just pick up a New York Times bestseller and adapt it with an honest intensity of effort. It'd make for an interesting conversational spitball at least, and add a bit more directorial excitement to what has become rather staid umbrella of movie genres.

    Conversely though, I wonder how many walked out of cinemas in 2002 somewhat disappointed that the man who helmed such a Gen X screed as Fight Club - satirical as it was - would as their immediate follow-up work on a conventional Home Invasion thriller? A thriller that for sure, had an overqualified cast and crew working it, and looked absolute fantastic - but also nothing remotely as culturally impactful as the prior film either.

    Honestly I can't think of anything particularly insightful to take from this film myself: beyond the satisfaction of having been thoroughly entertained by a precision craftsman knocking out whatever passes for a crowd pleaser in the mind of noted misanthropist, David Fincher. Or having watched Jodie Foster's best work during that brief phase she starred in mainstream Hollywood thrillers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    Best war film ever made. That bullet tracer scene is absolutely genius, I had the film up full blast on the speakers the first time I watched it, I may as well have been in that field too when those bullets went flying.

    The first 30-40 minutes of the film is executed in a dull, slow and drudge-like way akin to Andrei Tarkovsky's 'Stalker', then after the tracer bullet scene the whole thing literally descends into a total war Hellscape. Total Hell where the main character in this thing has aged 20 years within the space of 1 hour.

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    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I watched Cocaine Bear last night and I've never been so disappointed by a film. It was boring AF.

    Someone posted a weird rant in the Barbie thread a while ago about advertisers lying to people to trick them into seeing Barbie. They were talking nonsense but I kept thinking about that when watching Cocaine Bear. That trailer promised so much, I'd have been really mad if it'd paid to see it in the cinema off the back of the trailer.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,752 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The Zone of Interest

    If you thought Jonathan Glazer's Under the Skin was an icy, off-putting affair, he's only doubled down on that in his remarkable, long-awaited follow-up. Here, he's made a film that coldly, clinically focuses on the Auschwitz commander Rudolf Höss and his family as they live their pampered lives on the outskirts of the horrific concentration camp. It's an unsettling portrait of - to use a cliche - the banality of evil, but what astounds here is the formal rigour with which Glazer explores it. No atrocities are shown on screen - it's perhaps the closest a fiction film has come to espousing the filmmaking principles Claude Lanzmann explored in the peerless documentary Shoah. Static, often hyper-real shots indifferently capture the comings and goings of the family. But just to the edge of the frame, we see smoking chimneys. arriving trains and barbed wire fences, never letting us forget the horrors beyond.

    Amplifying that further is the astonishing, unsettling sound design - a soundscape where the discomforting noises in the muffled background emphasise that these people are going about their lives while unspeakable evil unfolds just over the wall. The other essential piece is Mica Levi's sparsely deployed, hauntingly industrial score. There's nothing I've experienced in a cinema recently quite like the impact of this film's soundscape blasting through the speakers - whether it's the sound of a muffled gunshot or the eerie brute force of Levi's final composition.

    It's quite the film - daringly confrontational and unwelcoming, but a studious bit of filmmaking that offers a chilling perspective on one of humanity's darkest chapters.

    The Burial

    Remember the 90s? They're back, in legal thriller form!

    An unapologetic throwback to the days when the courtroom drama was among the most reliable of multiplex entertainments, just this time released straight to a streaming service (Amazon) where such films go to die these days. It's 'based on a true story' bonafides can't cover up just how silly a lot of this is - completely OTT and indulgent stuff, hitting all the predictable beats. But it's also quite a lot of fun, thanks mainly to a pair of powerhouse performances in Jamie Foxx as an outlandish lawyer proudly out of his depth and Jurnee Smollett as his much more qualified corporate-backed legal opponent. Tommy Lee Jones shares dual-billing with Foxx as the 'small businessman' ('small' in the American sense that he's rich but not super-rich), but his job is mainly to offer some more reserved civility while the courtroom fireworks fly.

    This is not a great film, but it is an entertaining one - a film that's mostly flash and crowdpleasing spectacle, but there are some lazy autumn evenings when that's all you really need.



  • Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭monkeyactive


    Rob Roy


    Took Rob out for a spin. Man there are some great performances In this . Tim Roth, Brian Cox and John hurt knocking it out of the ball park. It's very well paced and edited , it clips along very nicely , builds plot intersped with action and swordplay. Attention to detail regarding costume etc is top class. It has not aged badly at all. If it were released tomorrow I would not bat an eyelid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,565 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The ending is great.

    It remains unfortunate that 'Rob Roy' was overshadowed by the vastly inferior 'Braveheart'.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Akira (1988)

    The original & only prior watch of this was one of those experiences I took upon myself out of cultural obligation, but maybe too young/stupid/uncultured to understand it as anything more than a kickáss movie that looked cool as shít - with some gnarly body horror as events unravelled. Ain't nothing wrong with that, I might add.

    To watch it again was an entirely different experience, this time finding the subtext such that I'd speculate if this might rank as high as Godzilla in interrogating Japan's collective sense of trauma & guilt over its unique & tragic atomic legacy. With, ya know, some gnarly body horror as events unravelled. This was a world in media res, where Tokyo was already coming away at the seams long before Tetsuou's sudden degradation into a monster: protests quickly morphed into riots; urban rot & violence suffocating and surrounding even the upper levels of cyberpunk opulence; a rogue Colonel believed himself Lord Protector as he casually shuttered what was left of democracy; while scheming politicians' own power disintegrated as they bickered among themselves. And all this born from the ruins of an apocalyptic event caused by an ineffable power; one that had since become part mystical, another part scientific conspiracy - but entirely endemic.

    What still astounded without caveat and nearly 40 years after its release was the level of fidelity, fluidity and motion in the animation. It was something to behold. With CGI in 1988 still nothing more than an expensive folly, this was hand-drawn animation taken to a phenomenal level that even to this day is arguably a little unmatched. There were scenes I sensed would now be thrown to a render farm, as opposed to what must have been painstaking hours of drawing; a commitment right down to the smallest moments, like a character's neck & gaze turning gently as they watched something they approached.

    And with all that beautiful and expressive motion, you'd have forgiven the movie if the action was sparingly sprinkled across the film - but Akira's was constant and visceral from the very first scene; a thrilling bike chase an introduction to how things would start - and continue. A constant stream of tangible, crunchy violence and set-pieces throughout the two hour runtime; it barely took a breath, the pace was breakneck. To a fault, if I'm honest.

    Adaptations are a tricky needle to thread: compromise is often the necessary evil during translation, no more than when going from the written word to that most visual medium in cinema. While many a tome and epic has proven problematic by their sheer scope & volume: ask Tom Bombadil how he felt about the Lord of the Rings adaptation. So given that Akira the movie was sprung from a 2,000 page Manga novel, you could appreciate the need for brevity at every moment: watching this was like experiencing four different movies at once: not so much a sense of tones jarring, but just the sheer density of events and characters big & small left you feeling there was much sometimes critically underdeveloped. To the film's credit though, I wasn't left utterly confused either. Much was left unexplored, but not to the extent it became an incoherent mess.

    The question of running time seems perennial and has once again arisen with the Killing of Flower Moon, but leaving aside the probable reality that the animators could only perform so much magic, 2 hours wasn't remotely enough for this thing; another 30 minutes of subplot or world-building garnish would have been appreciated. Not least 'cos Tetsuou went from a teenager with misplaced anger, to a mutating physic behemoth with misplaced anger in what has to be record time for the genre. Either way, it still all looked cool as shít.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Don't Look Now

    I had seen this a few times but stumbled across it again last night.

    Its a good study of two people mourning in their own ways. I hadn't remembered how the tone shifts after the lovemaking scene and spirals into desperation as it races towards the end. My understanding is that this act repairs their relationship but they still need to come to terms as individuals with their loss.

    Another thing I hadn't appreciated before is how the John character is throwing himself into his work to distract himself not only from loss but also from what he knows is coming, given the blind sister says he has 'second sight', a sort of 'If I don't think about it, it won't happen'.

    The visual aspect (how is winter in Venice not going to be atmospheric) and the music is still haunting and fair play to the two leads because a lot of the film's essence depends on their performances.

    That sex scene looks authentic but also awkward, like two jigsaw pieces that just don't fit right.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,021 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Saw "Anatomy of a Fall" last night, think its out in ireland next week. Phenomenal, hugely recommend. Just enthralling in its ambiguity.



  • Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭monkeyactive


    Limbo

    An art house modern Film Noir style Detective film set in the Australian back end of nowhere where a Detective with personal baggage is sent to look into a cold case involving the disappearance of an aboriginal girl. I enjoyed it. Its in Black and white. Similar enough to the likes of Mystery road and Goldstone for a cynical eyebrow to twitch but in fairness it does have its own thing going.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    High and Low (1963)

    Ok, maybe this is now my favourite Kurosawa flick.

    A distinctly bifurcated feature, where a taut chamber drama suddenly, but not jarringly, pivoted into a prototypical police procedural that was engrossing in its own way. The drama kicked off as something quite theatrical with an almost claustrophobic setting of a living room; what might otherwise have come across a little stagey was counteracted by Kurosawa's usual supernatural ability for blocking: all his tricks were put to good use in a predominantly one room environment to heighten an otherwise mundane location; and each character constantly moved around as hierarchies and power shifted during the tense hours following the (mistaken!) kidnapping that functioned as the inciting incident. Then, with a chaotic interstitial set aboard a train and all shot handheld, the focus shifted to the shoe leather and necessary monotony of the police investigation. Yet it wasn't monotonous to watch as Kurosawa managed to make the routine of an active investigation quite riveting; while the style turned into something a bit more matter-of-fact in places, little moments of important minutiae were highlighted to the audience by a sudden change in composition, or a sudden pause in motion - or in one specific, spectacular case, a single splash of colour to emphasise an earlier detail returning to the fore. 

    It's a well known phenomenon that there has been an increased appetite for all things forensic, the catalyst perhaps the "true crime" podcast or streaming shows like Mindhunter; but by and large I think Hollywood has tended to skirt around all that evidence gathering and testimony as a dramatic device - preferring the cheap melodrama and individualism of Sherlock'esque savants with uncanny abilities where others cannot see the patterns. Moments of Eureka! preferred to the simple diligence of a reality that tends towards something more communal. Something that can be tough to work into standard narrative convention - but in the right hands too it can be engrossing in its own way.

    So for a 60 year old film to feel both like a prototype yet still an outstanding example in that approach is kinda crazy: maybe it also speaks to cultural difference where I'd draw comparison between America's predominance towards an individualistic mentality, compared with the lingering caste structure of Japan; something perhaps evident with constant deference from the police towards the nexus of the crime, the wealthy businessman Gondo. Indeed it left a constant sense of the peculiar that the film's moments of empathy were not directed towards Gondo's chauffeur; instead the father of the son actually kidnapped kept his head bowed like he was ashamed of it all, all while others chastised his behaviour - including the police! No, instead his employer and all the monetary or career damage caused by the whole affair was what received sympathy.

    And in Gondo himself it was yet another barnstormer from Toshiro Mifune, where this time his standard resting energy of simmering physicality was played as something impotent: he fumed (mifune'd if you will?) and often stood with a rigid posture like he was holding it in, powerless as he could only stomp and snap as his livelihood and fortunes whithered in the face of a necessary sacrifice. And if I didn't quite share the script's insistence towards sympathy for Gondo at first, Mifune wore me down through that sense of a wounded & once-powerful animal now brought down low, rendered in that characteristically Japanese sense of formal emotionality. Even at the end, all he could do was watch in silent & sullen confusion as the motives for the kidnapping were laid bare in front of him.

    Indeed if I did have a grumble, it's that while the movie made sure we also saw the kidnapper's perspective at all times - perhaps making it more a three-part structure than one of two halves - it never quite managed a convincing landing in terms of motivations. I couldn't draw the connection that lead to kidnapping and murder. It was hurried and when it was explained it left me feeling a bit underwhelmed - albeit relieved it wasn't something more melodramatic like a scorned illegitimate child. But as is often the case in life, the journey was more entertaining than the destination



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭Decuc500


    Code of Silence

    Widely considered the best Chuck Norris film, it was originally written as a Dirty Harry script but Clint Eastwood turned it down so Andrew Davis came on board as director, cast Norris and moved the setting to Chicago.

    It’s a gritty and violent film in that 80’s way. Probably did a roaring trade in video rental shops. Norris’s cop has to protect an Italian mobster’s daughter after the Italians crash a Columbian drug deal and the Columbians want revenge.

    Davis went on to direct two of the best actions films of the 90’s, Under Siege and The Fugitive, and you can tell he knows his way around a shootout. Indeed, one brilliant chase scene on top of the L train through Chicago is a dry run for The Fugitive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Watched the new Rise Of The Footsoldier Vengence

    Christ how are they still making these movies, the story in parts was pathetic and the amount of blood & guts was crazy

    Apparently more to come in the series



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    No way the Tate from part 1 would be anyway friendly with someone who Cross dresses

    Same with how Tucker seems to have gotten more friendly in the later films.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭santana75


    Dream scenario

    Saw this on a whim yesterday and I was very pleasantly surprised. Its a pretty sharp satire on the fickle nature of modern society. Some laugh out loud moments with Nic Cage putting in a brilliant performance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭Decuc500


    The Bride Wore Black

    For some reason this is the first film I’ve seen from Francois Truffaut. It won’t be the last.

    A woman whose husband is killed on their wedding day vows revenge on the five men who are responsible. She crosses out their names from her little black book when she kills them one by one. There is a Bernard Hermann score. Sounds familiar, yet Quentin Tarantino claims to have never seen it (according to Wikipedia anyway). It’s not really an exploitation movie like Kill Bill. Instead, it’s in the style of classic Hitchcock.

    It’s such an impressive movie. The camera movements are very stylish and flamboyant, Jeanne Moreau is great as the stone cold woman of revenge, the Hermann score is of course pure Hitchcock/De Palma. I think I'm going to enjoy catching up on Truffaut's earlier New Wave films.



  • Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭monkeyactive


    The Killer,

    David Finchers latest on Netflix.

    I thought it was lacklustre dull and by the numbers.

    Fassbenders assassin character was impossible for me to care about. He was a walking paradox. On one hand a supposedly cold killer for hire who would think nothing of wasting innocents but then we are supposedly meant to buy the impetus for his emotionally charged revenge spree being that he cares so much for his partner (who wasn't even murdered just beat up badly). Having seen the unforgettable likes of Bardems Anton Chiguh and Billy BoBs Lone Mavlo this attempt at the cold ruthless determined hitman just seemed extremely limp and third grade.

    The whole thing struck me as a poor mans John Wick / Equaliser / Jason Bourne less the redeeming characteristics of those films. The line between satire and intense seriousness was often badly blurred. In one intense brutal fight scene Fassbender scrabbles in a drawer for a weapon and to his disappointment pulls out a mini lemon zester, totally at odds with the tone of the scene.

    Many of the tropes in the film have already been painfully well worn and exhausted such as the long civilized chat between two adversary's when one realises they have been cornered and are drawing last breaths.

    The whole film is punctuated by Fassbender's chant like monologue repeating some kind of mantra about focusing" don't improvise ,anticipate" while the whole time he is getting caught off guard and having to improvise.

    The film is shiny and slick looking but it just reeks of lack of creative flare with a very dull plot. Fassbender is never really challenged. He just goes about his revenge spree with out much real issue despite one crazy fight. Thoroughly uninteresting stuff I found. Grand for a Wednesday night if your stuck for a film but from David Fincher I had higher expectations.



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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I watched Jaws for the first time and loved it. I'll spare you all my rambling thoughts but I found myself still thinking about it with a sense of excitement today. I can completely understand how someone would see that film and be driven to want to make films themselves. So good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Ed Wood

    I've always liked Tim Burton and have a lot of time for Johnny Depp (at least pre-POTC) and I'd heard plenty about the real-life director the film is based on.

    I thoroughly enjoyed it. It plays up to the reputation Ed Wood had. At times, its played in a camp, hammy style but there are some tender moments as well. Martin Landau in particular is astounding as Bela Lugosi. Burton did a great job at capturing the 50s zeitgeist and it really feels and looks like a film from the time, from the black and white to the swipes to the camera shots used. Its a homage not only to Ed Wood but to films from that era.

    I've read that there's a certain degree of artistic license but I did get a good sense of Ed Wood being a spirited dreamer while being surprisingly comfortable with his cross-dressing at a time when it was seen as extremely deviant behaviour.

    Highly recommended film.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,565 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    ^

    My fave Burton movie and, really, the only one I can watch repeatedly. A great yarn even if you don't know anything about Ed Wood himself.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The Truman Show (1998)

    A film that perhaps once existed as something prescient of a nascent social media age, but is there now an argument The Truman Show has instead come out the other side to become kinda hokey and redundant?

    We now live in an era where "Influencers" and streamers broadcast a heavily curated, often sponsored facade of their own lives; and while not 24/7 streamers' own schtick demands constant material no matter how trivial or inane (I remain baffled how watching people play video games is more entertaining versus, ya know... playing the damn things. Old Man Yells At Cloud). Modern digital media has become buttressed by thousands of Trumans: a small cabal of lurid hyper-successes above scores again of pretenders prostrating themselves in front of a fickle audience for their supper. Smash that Like button, ring that bell, sign up to Patreon - please watch me.

    The only functional difference between these performers and Truman Burbank is that Jim Carrey's character had no self-awareness of the lie surrounding him. So our actual reality is the alternative ending to the film, where the subject simply accepted their status and willingly continued the fabrication. As can be often the case, real life rings a little more dystopian.

    Anyway, leaving aside that extended brainfart and whatever relationship the film has with the zeitgeist, what a blast I had watching this again. This was expertly balanced in being both perfectly taut and loosely playful at the same time: a looseness that surprised 'cos I had forgotten just how late into the film Ed Harris' important figure actually appeared; but such was the excellence of this film's structure and editing his arrival was precisely timed. It was a moment that served to encapsulate how darkly funny and obscene Truman's life had become. Where emotional authenticity was nothing but a facade, directed by an unseen god who by his own words, reckoned he knew Truman more than the man himself.

    There were a couple of FX shots that were kinda terrible as those early-but-cheap attempts at CGI often were; while it remained one of those concepts that perhaps benefitted from not thinking too carefully on how this fake world worked - or indeed the exact appeal of the show in the first place. Indeed perhaps the only tonal misstep on reflection was presenting the in-movie audience as ordinary, empathetic creatures: we saw them cheer Truman's burgeoning curiousity - yet weren't all these people complicit in his imprisonment in the first place? Still, that's reaching for quibbles when overall my reaction was of something highly entertaining, often darkly funny, briskly paced, and humane while still being optimistic - despite the rictus-grin horror that was Truman's life.

    And then there was Carrey himself: almost every time through his career where he has ducked away from the hyperactive insanity of his comedies, all that natural timing and physicality has only served to make the dramatic roles more impactful. I've long thought it, but films like this reinforced the belief that comedians make for great dramatic actors 'cos their natural sense of timing and closeness to the folly of the human condition sometimes brings more theatricality sure - but without the trade on emotional vulnerability. So all the rubbery movement from films like Liar Liar was there with Carrey's performance, just dialled back into something more internalised, repressed even. Added into that was the consideration this was made at the height of his comedic powers when all Carrey's insanity was a money-printing machine. Maybe there was a degree of something retrospective or personal in this film of a man living a life of constant scrutiny by an audience baying at him to entertain.

    Would have to agree with @Tony EH that it's Burton's high watermark, and it's a shame that he didn't dovetail more into "simple" stories like this, rendered with a little bit of his off-kilter panache. His career really cratered into becoming an anaemic gun-for-hire, when maybe he could have had more Ed Wood level movies, work his craft a little.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Follow this with The 400 Blows, you're gonna have lots of fun. That's my first of his so gonna watch The Bride Wore Black next.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Wages of Fear (1953)

    Watched this with a degree of enthusiasm, and somewhat belatedly too, knowing it as the original version of a longtime favourite film - and William Friedkin's true Best Film, shush - 1977's Sorcerer.

    I've no clue where the consensus lands when pitching the two films against each other, even accounting for the resting presumption that remakes trend inferior compared with the original; but for my taste, this was the lesser, slower vehicle. I couldn't honestly have picked an aspect that I thought rose above Friedkin's own attempt: his was earthier, sweatier and more viscerally thrilling on a moment to moment basis when the nitroglycerin hit the fan. I think my only real criticism of Sorcerer might be the length of time spent with the cast's backstories against the explosive mayhem that followed them, but each little vignette had their own charms; and while Wages... did start out in its central, shítty location the tone of the village's characters veered too often into something almost goofy. The facade of joviality dropped once money was on the table, and the stakes became literal life or death, but there was less of that sense of pure animalistic desperation seen in the later movie. There was a ... jauntiness that seemed at odds with the concept.

    Now as its own creature, this was perfectly solid 1950s entertainment - and an interesting time capsule of French cinema released a shade before the much-vaunted New Wave kicked off. And it was a film utterly unburdened by the restraints placed on contemporary American cinema thanks to the puritanical moral constipation of the Hay's Code; the violence was raw, the sexuality naked (literally and figuratively), and the morality of its cast quite unapologetically blunt & crass. The camera lingering on the sight of a leg mangled & smashed by a truck's wheel was quite shocking - for a film this old. Even Sorcerer's violence wasn't this crunchy.

    Yes, the film paled in comparison with the 1970s attempt but what was there still entertained all the same, still thrilled once the nitroglycerin burdened trucks started moving. And maybe if push came to shove characters like Luigi were better than later on, with Sorcerer's band of ghosts a broadly detestable bunch. Wages... was also a film entirely(?) without a soundtrack, again a cute reversal to Sorcerer's audio singular landscape: no artificial adjustment of emotion needed, not when a truck was teetering on the edge of a bridge made of rotten wood; or when a character waded through a lake of oil, the actor clearly uncomfortable as the oil lapped around his mouth. Perhaps ultimately, that's where a fairer assessment originated when comparing this and its sibling: that both Wages... and Sorcerer had a commendable physical manifestation of its set pieces. Bar the usual crappy looking rear projection when inside the trucks, everything looked like an in-camera effect - no models or cheats spotted. 

    Then there was all the material I could only charitably call "of its time": I'm more than capable at shelving my modernity to ignore or contextualise older movies' social failings or differences, labelling them as simply emblematic of that time. But then when on multiple occasions the ostensible lead characters here made crude, sexualised jokes about the native black population, it got a little hard to park my discomfort. Going double when the only female character in the entire film was a simpering, leg-hugging idiot whose sole purpose was to loudly fawn after Yves Montand's Mario - even as the man literally pushed her off a moving truck. It was just ... a shade too much to ignore or park my conscious brain from noticing. It wasn't ruinous to the experience, but definitely coloured it a little.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,565 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I've often thought that Friedkin's movie would have been better received if it had just been called 'The Wages of Fear', instead of the ludicrously obscure 'Sorcerer', which has to be one of the worst titles with which to sell the film. The title becomes clearer when one is watching the film, of course, but as an enticement to actually walk off the street and into the cinema to watch a picture it's a disaster. And in the days when audiences just turned up at the cinema and made their choice there and then on what to watch, the title and poster of 'Sorcerer' was never going to be an attraction to the general audience. Although one would have to question whether the general audience of 1977 would actually want to go and see a remake of a French film (albeit a popular one), even if 'Star Wars' wasn't playing on the next screen.

    But yeah, and I've said this before, I have long considered 'Sorcerer' to be the superior version of the story. For sure Clouzot's effort is great in it's own right and I own both. But the build up and back story in the 1953 film is a hell of a lot duller than in the 1977 film, while at the same time being interesting enough to allow the viewer to want to see where the tale will lead. But Friedkin's decision to actually show the reason why his protagonists are in the situation they are in, before they undertake their dangerous mission, makes for a far more compelling entre.

    There may also be a personal factor at play for my elevation of one picture over another though. I grew up in the 80's watching 70's films on TV. And 'Sorcerer' is, most definitely, a "70's" film. Not as much in terms of fashions, setting, mannerism, or language. But in a style that is unmistakably 1970's cinema. It's shot on film. It feels gritty. It feels nasty and real. Of course, Geroges Clouzot's version was also shot on celluloid and is gritty too. The town of Las Piedras has the definite feel of isolated grime and despair. A hell hole where the dubious, the unfortunate and the desperate get washed up...and getting back out is beyond the means of most people. But Friedkin's movie has that genuine bluntness that characterised 70's Hollywood, which was a thorough rejection of the Hollywood artifice that drenched its output in previous decades. Something that Clouzot's French movie lacked somewhat, even if his movie had a certain bluntness to it as well.

    Both films are truly greats. But if I want to sit down to a film about desperate men driving nitroglycerin to help put out a fire at an oil station, then 'Sorcerer' gets the nod.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    But are they both as good as Vertical Limit?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Showing the backstories also meant the very last moment landed far better in Sorcerer: the tragedy and waste of it all felt more gut wrenching given it was a hitherto forgotten detail about the character's predicament from his past life. We don't even see what happens - but you just know. I always forget how Sorcerer ends and go "ah yeah, fúck".

    Wages' ending was instead just an "Idiot Ball" moment and kind left a sour taste where they just scribbled out a quick downer end. And even though a downer it kinda came from that sense of jauntiness that as you pointed out, just didn't exist in the more cynical, nasty minded 1970s film.

    The name was and still is monumentally stupid, Star Wars or no Star Wars. Without knowing the backstory I'd wonder was that more of Friedkin's Exorcist clout being flexed; cos I don't believe for a second any studio wanting to make money off an expensive shoot like that would have gone with such an obscure, off kilter name. "Wages of Fear" is a fantastic name in the first place, it couldn't have done the film any worse than "Sorcerer". The best ever movie with the worst ever name? 🤔

    Still kinda surprised nobody has picked up this idea again for another go: it's a cracking set up and one you can tell without necessarily stepping on the toes of the prior version.

    Never saw it, had to look it up! But as it's not Sorcerer I will say: no, no it's not 😎



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,565 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I've a tendency to be forgiving of the end of the 1953 film because it's obviously a reactionary countenance (as in an acceptance) to the standard ending of a 1950's film, where there's usually a happy ending and heroes get to walk away with a relative satisfaction. But yes I find myself, once again, in complete agreement with you and your "idiot ball" assessment and it's one of the worst things about Clouzot's film. Even as a kid I thought WTF was that? It's just a terrible conclusion and there's no other way around it. At the same time it's difficult not to like 'The Wages of Fear' as it's just such a damned interesting yarn, especially when weighed up against other films of the 50's. I still regard it as one of the best films of that decade, although it would come behind the likes of '12 Angry Men' or 'Bad Day at Black Rock'.

    I suppose, also, that Friedkin's remake is just one of those rare examples of a remake being superior to the original, even if the original is a genuinely great film. It's the perfect example of that unusual parallel where both films are genuine classics in their own right.

    As to the name, yes, it's always been a confounding thing as to why Friedkin picked that name and I've never really bought into his Star Wars excuse as to why the the film didn't do that well at the BO during the year in question. It's just a dumb name to call your film, especially when it's a remake and a remake of a film with a foreign title. Is it a case of Friedkin getting above himself? I'd say there's a good case for that. But it's a shame he chose that path.

    Regarding "another go", I genuinely hope it's never done. Because 10 to 1 there'll be no joy there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    Pig

    Movie with Nicholas Cage in the lead role. It had good moments but probably not one I'd watch again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,033 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Saving Mr. Banks, the story of how Walt Disney (Tom Hanks) finally persuaded author P.L. Travers (Emma Thompson) to let him make a movie of her book Mary Poppins. It was OK for a Sunday afternoon, I suppose, but not a lot happens, to be honest. It might be true to life in that Travers' involvement was limited to some pre-production, but it might have been nice to have some more detail about the production. All we hear about the casting is that Travers tried to veto Dick Van Dyke, but got ignored.

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



  • Registered Users Posts: 24 storydove


    Going through a 70s & 80s mood at the moment.


    Yesterday I watched River's Edge (1985), it stars Keanu Reeves, Crispin Glover and Iona Skye. It was a surprisingly dark tale, showing the lack of empathy in modern life. Also Dennis Hopper shows up in it, his brand of crazy fits in perfectly with the listless, hopeless world that's portrayed.


    Earlier today I looked at The Woman in Red (1984), Gene Wilder and Kelly LeBrock. Some of the humor doesn't date well, but the movie has it's moments. Gene getting petulantly angry, to put his wife off the trail of his potential affair, cracked me up.


    Just finished watching Capricorn One (1977). OJ Simpson the murderer is in it, he has a supporting role as one of three astronauts. Elliot Gould shines as the investigative journalist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,021 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    That's mad, I only just watched Capricorn One the other day myself. As you say, Elliot Gould steals the show, which kinda tells you all you need to know about the movie when the central story is overshadowed by the B-plot. Really wished they'd focused more on the machinations of the astronauts story, going more in depth on the faking of the mission, rather than just turning into a 'North by Northwest' knockoff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24 storydove


    Yep it reminded me of that too. And Elliot doesn't show up till 25 mins in, so yep the main story in a way becomes the side story from then on. I'm surprised a remake hasn't happened. I guess OJ being in it is problematic and maybe the reason the movie doesn't show up on streaming services.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,440 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Planned watching a comedy movie last night and as you do ended up watching a double feature about Nazi concentration camps on Amazon Prime.

    First was Naked Among Wolves (inventively just called "The Camp" on Amazon), decent enough though nothing you haven't seen before and done better in other movies, but overall a fine watch. Bizarrely there is a German officer in it who is the spit of Ralph Fiennes in Schlinders List, incredibly uncanny.

    Second was Collette (generically renamed Prisoners of Auschwitz), surprisingly this one got far more medicore reviews but I thought it was far better, really good production values and portrayed the grimness and general reality of camp life more convincingly. Interestingly while it's a Czech film it's English language.

    Not quite Son of Saul or Schlinders List levels of film-making, but very good.

    I suppose to be fair Naked Among Wolves is about Buchenwald which wasn't an actual extermination camp like Auschwitz so they're portraying different things and the latter is going to be bleaker, which it absolutely was.

    Would recommend both for anyone interested in the topic though.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Ed Wood (1994)

    A treatise on the bulletproof confidence of those possessing more hopeless optimism than talent, manifested through a ragtag & talentless group of charismatic misfits & losers; the shunned basically, whose latent good nature even while surrounded by adversity was a source of the film's positive energy, no matter if actual "success" eluded them all. All around these earnest faces lay tragedy, addiction and rejection yet Burton's arguable masterwork never once wallowed or indulged in excessive exoticism or turmoil: this was a deeply empathetic story that admired its characters, even as darkness would intermittently interrupt the goofing about - such as the visual motif of Bela Lugosi's pin-pricked arm reminding what lay beneath all the cheery gumption. Indeed the very last scene's text scrawl managed to drop a bum note in the lap of the audience: a close up of Johnny Depp's hopelessly amiable rictus grin as text on screen spoke of later alcoholism and squalor; Burton dropped the mic with a curt reminder that eventually, reality can shatter our belief things might yet turn out OK.

    As said I think this might be Burton's best film: perhaps it lacked the kind of signature eccentricity of his early work (that would eventually become a sad empty pastiche), but it had enough of that sense of the macabre coupled with a really deft control of his visual impulses that all the jumbled tones neatly slotted into each other. HIs use of black and white here was fabulous, some of his compositions quite stunning really. It was a reminder that mainstream cinema lost one of its more creative voices when Burton started picking up easy pay cheques to churn out anemic studio flicks. Ed Wood felt like a point where maybe in another universe, he kicked on and really honed his style - instead it may yet be the zenith? Certainly, I hold zero hope for Beetlejuice 2 arresting that sense of decline.

    His films might now be box office poison, and his personal life the subject of tattle and controversy, but this film served as a reminder why Johnny Depp was such a big name for a time: his performance was a touch theatrical - but in all the right ways. It was a balance of ostensible cheer full of encouragement for his friends, and an internalised sense of simmering frustration; it was sometimes fleeting with a quick twitch of the eye, but I always got a sense that this performance of barrelling enthusiasm was nothing more than a patina. Like I said, the very final shot of his grinning face as the text read of a downward spiral really sold that sense of how the only truly convincing special effect Ed Wood ever managed was this bubbly persona. Then there was Martin Landeau selling - but never overselling - the sad, defeated cantankerousness of a Bela Lugosi already well out to pasture. In Wood he found a spark of bonhomie again, but the resignation in the old actor's shoulders told a different story - there was only one way it was all going to end.

    It was also surprisingly nuanced and sympathetic in its portrayal of Ed Wood's transvestism, or his friend Bunny's desired transgenderism: this was a film from a time where while both were present in cinema, they were deployed as something grotesque, shocking or deceitful (see The Naked Gun 33⅓, Ace Ventura or even The Crying Game in its own way); instead, the film had a sense of foxhole camaraderie, ordinary people finding and accepting each other as they came; there was no judgement, only support. Sure a few moments were pitched as jokes, relying on others' reaction to Wood's clothing choices - but it never asked the audience to point and laugh either. Again, it was all part of this encouragement of the audience to embrace and cheer these losers whose only desire was to shoot some films together.



  • Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭monkeyactive


    The Creator

    Left me a little unimpressed. Went into it hoping for something with the philosophical depth of Ex Machina or blade runner on the AI sentience Topic.

    But this dealt with that aspect in a more smaltzy Termoinator 2 style and was more of a Chappie / District 0/ Elesyium style silly shoot em up, which was alright too. Thought they'd go full Akira with the kid but unfortunately not. Looked very cool and worth a watch but not the genre defying classic I was waiting for.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    The Three Musketeers: D'Artagnan

    First film of 2(?) in this year's French adaptation of Dumas' classic book. Starring everyone you've seen in other French and French adjacent things, like Vincent Cassel, Romain Duris, Eva Green, Vicky Krieps, and Louis Garrel.

    I enjoyed it, it seems like everyone's having fun and the 2 hour run time flew by. The Three Musketeers don't get a lot to do in this one, and past their initial meeting with D'Artagnan they could be 3 random people for all the character exploration we get, but the political maneuvering around the King gets a lot of room to build, and it all left me quite excited for the second one. It felt like a good old fashioned swashbuckling romp.



  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Robert Jackson


    Watched the uncut version of Maitresse the other night very much my cup of tea



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