Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Seriously have you nothing better to do than nit pick ?

Enjoy the rest of your evening now without using je as a punchbag .

6 posts from you today and only the last one did not blame me for something .

I rest my case ...

We wouldn't need to import foreign workers for healthcare or other sectors if we actually looked after our own graduates from nursing and medical schools who are graduating and leaving the country in droves,how about we fix our problems first and foremost

From what I can gather, we don't have enough Irish born people to fill the vacancies in the current economy. There are at least 500,000 non nationals in fulltime employment (real numbers are probably even higher). Even a severe reduction in emigration patterns going forward would be nowhere close enough to fill the shortfall if we took those 500k out of the workplace.

You could of course engineer a situation where Ireland has a homogenous population, but it would mean a much smaller economy, lower standard of living, reduced exports, much lower social welfare rates etc.

Pay them and treat them properly,

We don't need to import tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people from anywhere else to sweep floors and make cups of coffee

Suck it up .....

Lol

Employers don't want to pay people decent wages to do jobs anymore because they have way cheaper alternatives. Back in the 16th century, Spanish, Portuguese and English big business didn't want to pay Spanish, Portuguese and English people decent money to work on their plantations or in their mines. Importing slaves was cheaper. Now in the 21st century, big business doesn't even have to pay to transport the slaves - they pay for their own trip! Progess.

A lot of the psychology involves status-seeking and status-affirming. Placing the group they belong to as more important and valuable, while the others should feel grateful for whatever part of the society the important people allow them to share in. The important people then start to grow resentment if the others are treated equally to them in society, anger if the others dare complain at their treatment and blinded by rage if the others act in a way which harms the important people.

Even in Ireland before widespread immigration you could see something similar with the righteousness of religious people and how for example girls and women would be ostracized for becoming pregnant out of wedlock.

Do young people in Ireland feel like they have way more opportunities? Eurostat data shows that 68% of people aged 25-29 in Ireland still live at home with their parents. Their 3rd level education hasn't even allowed them to leave home.

I think you're living in this 1990s vision of Ireland as a wealthy country. It's not.

My friend - if you think immigrants are limited to only doing "****" jobs, then you're naïve. The reality is your dream of Ireland crashes straight into the reality of adults just shy of 30 (and many older again) still living with their parents because the "opportunities" you talk about aren't there.

Can't afford rent. Can't afford to buy a house. Can't afford a child. Can't afford child care. Can't afford food. Can't afford gas and electricity. Have a health emergency? Tough. Wait 2 years before seeing a specialist. Crime committed on you? Tough. 99% of the time nothing will be done.

But they have way more opportunities now because they have Netflix. The people at the top have foot soldiers on the internet doing their work and they're doing it for free.

young people have never had more opportunities in ireland when it comes to their careers

Nurses, doctors, teachers, anybody who have qualifications leave Ireland for a few years to get experience, travel and see other places.

Most return.

There has and will always be places for the foreign migrants who work here.

A lot of these in Dublin were afraid to leave their places of work last night with the gang of (Irish) thugs rioting outside and shouting " kill immigrants."

This thread is a cesspit and some here should take responsibility for the awful stuff and lies being said here every day.

This is not in the name of the majority of Irish people who see the problems with migration and also see that those on the far right are nothing but a pack of rabble rousing dirtbags.

And yet here we have people espousing those same views for pages and pages and being thanked by a group every day.

Shame on those and those who thank these posts.

If you support hate and hate speech it is the best way to encourage the thuggery we saw last night perpetrated by people who don't even understand that they are wrecking the place where they live.

(Not you Thelonius, of course, just responding to your post as tbh don't feel there is anybody else here besides you and Strazdas posting, that I want to engage with anymore.)