General Irish politics discussion thread

His claim still stands:

'Only one government agency has used an Irish passport to carry out an assassination'.

You were asked to back up your claim here:

You haven't backed it up.

I did and nowhere does it say, 'Joe Biden's America has used Irish passports to carry out an assassination'.

'As you say' happens.

The thread is about Irish politics, not Israel or Hamas or specific issues or events. I have nothing more to say about the attack in an Irish political context, unless you have something else to claim.

Re passports: It is of no importance who first mentioned them the fact is you made yet another claim without back-up.

You are not able to do it. So that's that.

You did not back up what you claimed. That

‘Biden’s America used Irish passports in an assassination’

You didn’t back up what you claimed.

And the point is whether America did it or not, it is a grave offence against our sovereignty.

Israel tales liberties with international law and because the US backs them they get away with it.

And we are not supposed to criticise them.

IMO it is right and proper given their track record and given they announced to the world that they were about to break international law that the President criticised UVDL’s solo run in underwriting that intension.

You can do that while also condemning Hamas, which we have done as a country as well.

I believe both have used terror illegally and that both can be called terrorists. Similar to our own conflict, i.e. wearing the uniform of a country, democratic or otherwise. does not give you immunity from being called a terrorist.

In the context of this long running conflict where two sides have committed atrocities in the eyes of the whole world the word 'terrorist' means very little.

Putin's Russia.

I was merely answering your post about passports and craic. (post no. 2398). Anyway, rest assured I will not reply to you again.

Eamon O'Cuiv is due to give the oration at the site of Kilmichael Ambush in Cork. This is a departure, possibly a significant one, as that gig was usually given to a Sinn Fein affiliate. Is this a bit of, reaching out, for after the next GE?

Reaching out by whom? The Kilmichael commemoration is organised by the "Independent National Commemoration Committee", so presumably it is they are reaching out by inviting a speaker from FF rather than a Shinner. But I've no idea who they are. The word "Independent" notwithstanding, if it's true that in the past they always invited speakers from SF, that might suggest they are, um, aligned with SF and therefore this represents a bridge-building exercise by SF.

Huge questions for the Minister for Justice and the Garda Commissioner this morning. Why did it look like they were completely overwhelmed in the capital last night. The Garda Commissioner is saying 'nobody could be prepared' but only a few months ago he was saying:

We need to know if what we saw last night is Garda strategy...which was basically, let them at it.

They were emboldened by being let get away with everything to date; due to Harris's policies.

Getting rid of him and getting someone in who will ensure appropriate policing is not playing in to their hands, it's finally ensuring that they get taken off the streets

Appropriate policing is not Heavy Gang stuff, it is just doing the basics like, oh, arresting people who break the law and not doing things like escorting thugs in to libraries like they did in Swords

Harris's approach to the far right has been *no* policing, the requirement isn't to go to the opposite, it is to actually do the basics.

The ppl out last night grew up in the last 10-20 years unafraid of the Gardai because as minors they couldn't touch them and in the rare cases they end up in front of a judge they are let off with no consequences. Massive justice reform for minors is required as well as some real consequences for the parents who are responsible for not caring about their feral youth.