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Children stabbed in Dublin city centre **Read OP before posting**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 55,527 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    It wasn’t long ago that the very fabric of our democracy/society was attacked when elected officials were harassed and attacked by scumbags whilst our officials were on their way to and from work. And gardai protecting them with the bare minim of force.

    When are we going to crack down really hard on these people, and send out a strong message that societal thuggery will be crushed, and those responsible punished properly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    To be fair, everything you say here about Irish social class can just as easily be said about migrants and refugees when it comes to people from comfortable, peaceful and (to use your term) "civilised" countries who other them and label them as undesirables for having the neck to seek something better for themselves.

    It should be no less wrong for people to take what that lunatic did yesterday as a stick to beat migrants as it is to disparage the entirety of a certain deprived social class of Dublin's northside just because of the thugs who rampaged in the city centre last night. And let's not forget that a lot of migrants themselves are living in poorer communties in the Northside and are very much of that social class too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,764 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Northernlily


    The racists are out trying to subtly undermine the Brazilian hero who prevented an even bigger tragedy yest.

    We see you. Twats.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep




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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,775 ✭✭✭buried


    The USA is the size of a continent, with unlimited resources. You're equating that with a tiny island such as Ireland?

    You may as well be saying stick 850,000 extra people onto Inis Meain.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭MoonMotorway


    The issue is where are they supposed to go? Like other sectors in Ireland, the prisons were no doubt neglected too. As for the TV livence non payers going to prison, I do t know anyone but I think, they show up to prison and told to go home or they only stay for a few hours because prisons are so underresourced too.


    The rioting that happened yesterday, it's been growing for years. Thugs would often target just stuff like even traffic on roads and surround innocent people and just intimate them and the gardai don't do anything.

    I would be in favour of a mantory army for all young lads to attend after they finish school for a few years. It will take many of these young lads off the streets and away and they can redirect their energy into the army.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,764 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison


    Ignoring them is best - it drives them batty 🤪



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,546 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Nearly every country in Europe has a non national population of at least 10%, even non-EU members. Treating immigration as unnatural or an aberration is not exactly helping.....people are more mobile now than at any point in human history.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,735 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Gutted hes Brazilian. And a Deliveroo driver.

    Brazilian Deliveroo drivers have been targets for inner city scum



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,796 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Fintan O’Toole wrote in the IT a month or two ago that if you consume the mainstream/tradtional media RTE, BBC, Indo etc you are now in the minority. Most people get their news from Facebook, Telegram, links on WhatsApp etc.

    No oversight, no editors, no responsibility. Yesterday was the result of this fracturing of the media. Whereas once, kids and teenagers would hear news from their parents watching or reading the usual sources, now two generations are seeing this incendiary and violent content.

    The Clare hotel protests were the canary in the coalmine. Library attacks were this crowd flexing their muscles. Yesterday was them in full confidence.

    It doesn’t matter what the cause is, if it is a wedge, they’ll push it.

    The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,939 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    They set fire to several immigrant residential centres. That's political, far right political.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    Perhaps but a hell of a lot nicer than in those days!

    Thinking back on it, my mother specifically warned us off Temple Bar and O'Connell Street as the two no-go places in town. The entire place was crumbling and properly poor. People forget just how steep our economic growth was. Dublin today is a completely different city to those days.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Exactly. There is more than enough wealth in this country, and in all Western countries, to look after everyone. What needs to happen, but won't, is the well heeled very well off need to give more back to the state and the people who never contribute to the state need to start contributing. It's so **** simple! One reason it won't happen is because the guy canvassing for election in D4,Montenotte,Monaleen etc cannot stand on a platform of taking a bit more from the wealthy and his counterpart in Sherriff St, knocknaheeny, Southill etc cannot stand on a platform of demanding more from those on benefits.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,531 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    OK, you want small countries that have succeeded with immigration.

    How about Singapore? Switzerland? Denmark? New Zealand?

    By the way, I'm not saying 'let's just have uncontrolled immigration'. It needs to have proper planning, resourcing and integration strategies.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    I doubt they could even articulate 'the issues'. You are 100% correct.



  • Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭jimboblep


    Hehe



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭Kalimah


    I hope to God none of them get bail, and that ALL of them are named no matter what age.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,435 ✭✭✭boardise


    This is a relevant point . I always thought the whole rationale of prisons was that they were places you would not like to be . They would places of minimal basic provision -which would not rule out efforts at rehabilitation , time off for good behaviour etc.

    The move away from this to making prisons seem more like hotels has taken away an element of the deterrence prisons were supposed to have,



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  • Immigints I knew it was them! Even when it was the bears, I knew it was them!



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,775 ✭✭✭buried


    Thats great for those countries, but we are a tiny Island, currently on life support with our total lack of infrastructure, whether it be health, housing, transport etc. Our only indigenous resource is agriculture, which is already being planned to be greatly reduced.

    When the mess hits the fan, how are we going to support anybody?

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Our Minister for Justice is an absolute disgrace , Its not about safety and our streets are safe she announces . This while people are trapped in work , in restaurants, in hospitals, pregnant women told not to travel to the Rotunda , people told not to come to town from £ Arena , no public transport , cars and buses on fire and shops looted .



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,539 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Sure the barristers and solicitors represent the clients for "free".

    The gravy train definitely wasn't burnt out.





  • Nothing wrong with a small riot and a few fires now. Builds character. Sure young lads need to learn how to set fire to things in the event of total damnation and the breakdown of society.

    /s



  • Registered Users Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Lad GAGA


    Ashamed to be Irish after last night. After what had happened yesterday for those thugs to terrorise a community, stop people from getting home from work, terrorise people in doing some late night christmas shopping, randomly loot shops and destruct vehicles etc. A black day for this country and on O'Connell Street which is supposed to represent our freedom and people who gave their lives for this country's freedom etc. It sickens me. I hope they throw the book at the thugs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,775 ✭✭✭buried


    But we don't have any of that. Our establishment literally cannot plan anything. Last night is the proof of it, if you needed any further proof of their total incompetence.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Definitely not. The people who carried out the riots last night are total scumbags, the lowest of low life's.

    Perhaps if the government had of taken one bit of notice in listening to concerns that alot of citizens had both Irish and non Irish this could of been avoided.

    Our services have been totally let fall into a dreadful state, we have a minister for justice so out of touch it's nearly unbelievable.

    If we can't control our own home grown problems do you not think we need a serious look at who's coming into the country as not to add to it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭yagan


    I was working on a short contract in Dublin city centre just before the pandemic and it was obvious to me that scrotes had free reign to do as they pleased, it was their territory. I had lived between the canals in the 90s, both north and south side and back then there was still enough community cohesion to tackle things at a local level. That seems to be replaced by rent seeking policies.

    That was a policy decision to cede the city centre to crime without consequence. The anti lockdown protests and clashes were a coalescence, but last night showed how out of touch the justice minister was. I'm feel confident in saying that no one who makes decisions for Dublin city centre lives within the south and north circular road.



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