"Green" policies are destroying this country

What are you talking about, you don't even make sense any more. Look up the wind output in Ireland from May-July this year. It wasn't pretty, we even had an Amber alert in June due to its shortcomings. I've no idea why you are so fixated on a month of wind, you brought that up when you were told this morning wasn't a stellar wind performance.

Irrespective, looking at a month of wind availability vs a month of thermal plant availability, there's only going to be one winner. It isn't wind.

I doubt there is poster here that doesn`t know what someone is who point blank refuses to answer a simple question on their own assertion.

No, it's not a choice. It's very simple logic: when we are discussing plans for 2050, a document about 2030 is irrelevant. Did you fail to notice your document -- which has 2030 stamped all over it -- is about 2030? If so, now is your opportunity to correct your mistake. If not, then clearly you are being obtuse and no further discussion is possible. Let me know which. Unlike some of the posters on the greenie side, I am actually willing and indeed anxious to engage.

Yes, but ... all of the proposed routes to net zero by 2050 involve technology that does not yet exist. Therefore it would not make sense for there to be specific government policies nominating specific technologies. They are relying on other bodies to come up with suggestions. Eamon Ryan has clearly been pushing offshore wind and hydrogen, but that does not yet form official policy. ESB has produced an outline plan for that specific scenario -- there is an accompanying video which has been linked on this thread several times, I presume you are familiar with it.

However, the most comprehensive assessment that I am aware of is the Eirgrid scenario planning document called: "Tomorrow's Energy Scenarios 2023". It contains four different scenarios of which renewables + hydrogen is just one (the "Gas Evolution" scenario). Go and view it here:

Follow the link to the consultation portal and you can read or download the document there. Notwithstanding my extreme reservations about feasibility and cost, it is very well laid out and worth digesting in detail. I don't want to spam the thread by trying to summarise such a large (100+ pages) document here, but I will make some comments à propos the question of whether wind and solar constitute the only energy sources in the electricity generation mix by 2050.

You will find that this is the case for the two scenarios that involve the vast amount of offshore wind favoured by Eamon Ryan. "Gas Evolution" does it through non-grid-connected hydrogen electrolysis, and "Offshore Opportunity" uses vast amounts (37GW) of grid-connected offshore with improbable levels of foreign interconnectivity (up to 17GW). Here are the proposed energy mixes for these two:

"Gas Evolution":

"Offshore Opportunity":

So yes, in the preferred scenarios wind and solar are the only energy sources.

Only the "Constrained Growth" scenario continues to have significant natural gas in the mix, and even that is with carbon capture and storage. This, by the way, is a scenario where the technologies don't work out and/or supply chains are crocked, and the economy has taken a nose dive. The "Self-Sustaining" scenario also contains some gas (including unabated gas), but only because it is offset by negative emissions BECCS (biomass with CCS). Biomass and biogases are not shown as part of the electricity generation mix because they are more suitable for use in other hard-to-decarbonise industrial processes.

"Constrained Growth":

"Self-Sustaining":

If I was to summarise an objection to each scenario in one sentence:

• "Gas Evolution" -- PEM electrolysis hopium
• "Offshore Opportunity" -- savage grid hopium, both on the offshore wind and interconnector sides
• "Self-Sustaining" -- negative emissions hopium
• Constrained Growth" -- requires a crocked economy
• All -- no costings whatsoever

But there are plenty of other things to stand your hair on end. Read the document.

Perhaps you could let the rest of us know what the government plans are for secure generation going forward as you seem to have read the "document" setting out their plans.

Would like to know if there will be a secure affordable supply before I invest in a generator.

“Green psychology” could you explain what this is? Thanks

About as much as your responses have to do with the questions posed to you.

Are you saving them all up to provide a glut of high quality answers in some random future month?

The document is available for everyone to read. In terms of "affordable" wel every person has a different version of what affordable is supposed to be so I don't know how to answer that. But the grid itself will be a mix of generation and not just renewable as some constantly claim here.

Whats a "green warriors"?

Some many words fired out here I think we should get a couple of definitions of what they mean. Don't you?

So the article you linked has nothing to do with green policies in Ireland?

I'm sure you are aware boards adhere to attack the post not the poster. Something which a few here seems to forget in the last few pages.

FYI post count and longevity doesn't mean quality. That is abundantly clear on this thread

My mistake on the link

Not sure why you think you can discuss other posters? are you a mod?

Article is about Morocco, what has Morocco got to do with Congo/China/Papua New Guinea?

I simply can't be bothered trying to figure it out anymore. I've posted multiple times to say that document you are referring to is a 2030 plan, and the 2050 plan is indeed 100% renewables. I've given you all the relevant links. I can only assume you have me on ignore. I can't imagine anyone taking you seriously under the circumstances, but so be it.