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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

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    #11192
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 14,217 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121413240#Comment_121413240

    well you're going to see some hatred towards people smashing the place up yes. i would imagine if they're from the inner city then they're probably living in social housing in the inner city which is a pretty good deal. people from these areas have more opportunities now than ever too when it comes to getting work, and most of them are working.



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    #11193
    thinkabouit
    Registered Users Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭thinkabouit


    National security under threat & terror attacks arent a fair trade off for pro immigration imo.

    And foreign nationals already working here (eastern europeans) with me also think Our immigration policy is insane!



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    #11194
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    The main reason nobody wants to do the lower paid jobs is because your better off on the dole getting a few days here and there. Better still if you have a few kids early on probably a house threw in. The welfare and Benefits are far better than a low paid jobs. And alot of immigrants are well aware of this too.



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    #11195
    hynesie08
    Registered Users Posts: 9,787 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121413240#Comment_121413240

    It's a fact if you have a certain accent you won't even make it past the interview stage if you are lucky enough to make it that far and then people wonder why these lads turn to crime and general lawlessness

    It's not a fact though is it?



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    #11196
    Deep Thought
    Registered Users Posts: 4,433 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    Ha.. based on yesterday..

    seriously.. the Irish patriots attacking the country the allegedly love while the immigrants everyone hates are protecting our children…

    close this xenophobic thread .

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



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    #11197
    thinkabouit
    Registered Users Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭thinkabouit


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121413514#Comment_121413514

    That immigrant came here with a visa, and is working & making his way in life contributing positively to our country. Nobody has a problem with that system.

    But Suspect A is probably why people & right they are, are concerned about coming into the country, because we’ve seen the results of this policy play out already in other country’s.



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    #11198
    Deep Thought
    Registered Users Posts: 4,433 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    Probably..

    let’s maybe look at the facts.. lads claiming to be patriotic have attacked the country they claim to love ,

    a man from Brazil .. stopped the attack..

    or am I totally missing the WHOLE thing..

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



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    #11199
    thinkabouit
    Registered Users Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭thinkabouit


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121413569#Comment_121413569

    And why did they do that? What gave that oxygen to ignite?



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    #11200
    titan18
    Registered Users Posts: 12,004 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121413553#Comment_121413553

    Tbf, irrespective of what the Deliveroo guy did, that part is an issue. No idea what visa or anything he's on, but a lot of those are in the English language scam schools, working cash in hand and paying no tax and then sleeping 5/6 to a room. There's very much a problem with that system.



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    #11201
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121413514#Comment_121413514

    Just because a thread doesn't suit your views shouldn't be a reason to close it. Do you think people who are concerned about aspects of immigration and how its controlled are all xenophobic.

    Anyway the thread your probably looking for was closed because of court cases, this thread is about refugee policy which you seem to be uncomfortable with.



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    #11202
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121413582#Comment_121413582

    He gave an interview earlier saying he was only planning to stay here for a short period before heading to London I think he said ,seems he's travelling around a bit ,

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    #11203
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,291 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    This thread is about Ireland's refugee policy. Not immigration for any other reason. It is also not a thread to discuss the stabbings and riots in Dublin

    Any questions PM me - do not reply to this post in thread



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    #11204
    thinkabouit
    Registered Users Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭thinkabouit


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121413582#Comment_121413582

    Yea fair enough valid point’s that system ain’t perfect but it is what it is!

    Im thinking more along the line’s off unvetted bus loads of men being dumped into communities in the middle of the night out of the blue!



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    #11205
    combat14
    Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭combat14


    So what is irelands refugee immigration policy at present given the 13,000 homeless here and massive housing crisis ?



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    #11206
    bloopy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭bloopy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121413704#Comment_121413704

    Stick them in fields and old buildings in the back arse of nowhere and call it a success.



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    #11207
    pauly58
    Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭pauly58


    That's exactly it, there is no policy, no plan of any kind other than an open door policy & it isn't going to end well.



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    #11208
    jay0109
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭jay0109


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121413704#Comment_121413704

    Half that 13,000 are non-nationals. I see lots of comments over the years referring to Irish homeless making up all of that number, but it's not the case and the breakdowns provided by the authorities show that



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    #11209
    lmimmfn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121414340#Comment_121414340

    If that happens it's the result of existing parties being completely detached from the concerns of the populace which is the current situation. There's noone to blame but current politicians.



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    #11210
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,291 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    highpressisbest threadbanned



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    #11211
    pauly58
    Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭pauly58


    The Government line that if you criticize the situation on immigration you must be a Neo-Nazi is like the one Stalin had : The Russian system is perfect, therefore if you criticize it, you must be mad & locked up in an asylum.

    I'm a life long Socialist, does that mean I must not criticize what they are doing ? It was obvious long ago this situation was going to be disastrous. I'm an old man & grew up in England at the time the National Front were strong. McEntee & Harris trotting out the old "right wing racist" line just have no idea.

    Getting difficult to see how the Government are going to get out of the mess they have caused by incompetence & inept Ministers. They should have had plans, targets etc. when this all started.



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    #11212
    Luxembourgo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121414346#Comment_121414346

    Where do you get these breakdowns?



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    #11213
    ArthurDayne
    Registered Users Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121414340#Comment_121414340

    God I really dislike this trend of trying to make one side responsible for the idiocy of the other.

    Our State does not exist to massage, caress and soothe the wanton paranoia, fear-mongering and melodramatics of the far right. We do not have to sit around perpetually fretting as to "what will the far right make of this?". The fact that the presence of foreigners and racial diversity brings the prejudices and ugly views of the far right into the open does not mean that Brazilians or Nigerinans or other non-white or non-Irish nationals made far right folk into what they are. They were what they are already.

    It really is not that insightful to wager that the far right will gain traction in Ireland if Ireland continues to have inward migration. That is not because foreigners come here and simply transform otherwise happy, reasonable and intellectually-rounded people into bitter thuggish xenophobes. These people were not all on course to be contented contributors to healthy political and socioeconomic discourse until immigration policy made them something different. The fact is if they weren't bitter about foreigners they'd be bitter about something else.



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    #11214
    Potatoeman
    Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415826#Comment_121415826

    If the racist card is constantly played it loses all meaning. If you have a problem with all male migrants being bused into small villages under cover of darkness then you must be a Nazi. Oh, now it’s not safe for your kids in the park, well too bad, you must be a racist Nazi. This line is being trotted out by those with kids in private school where there sure as hell are not refugee centers next door full of male only migrants. They should put the migrants in the RTE car park and see how our betters react.



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    #11215
    Marcos
    Registered Users Posts: 500 ✭✭✭Marcos


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121416851#Comment_121416851

    " They should put the migrants in the RTE car park and see how our betters react."

    Exactly.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



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    #11216
    Furze99
    Registered Users Posts: 11,212 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121414534#Comment_121414534

    Heard Ivana - leader of the Labour party today, clearly labelling those who express reservations re immigration as right wing.

    She'd want to wise up very, very quickly. Insulting voters like me who have voted for Labour candidates in general elections over past 20 years.

    Hard to believe that she's that far out of touch with grass roots of Labour party vote.



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    #11217
    Mr. teddywinkles
    Registered Users Posts: 2,162 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121417215#Comment_121417215

    Why in name of jaysus would ya vote for an obvious racist. Labour be fooked. This party use to think of the workers of the country not your race or colour. Times have changed severely. And please dont ask me who I'd vote for because its a complete ball of shite now in the political institution.



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    #11218
    Mullaghteelin
    Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Mullaghteelin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121417215#Comment_121417215

    Bacik's more extreme views have been well known to political nerds for many years. For a long time she was notorious for failing to get elected, possibly because she was a bit too radical.

    A lot of people are angry with themselves for voting for various different politicians, so you're not alone.



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    #11219
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415925#Comment_121415925

    I myself have a few questions I would like answered and that should be being addressed by my government.

    Should we be letting the influx of refugees keep rising when our accommodation options are seriously in doubt.

    Should refugees be getting the maximum welfare payment when children allowance, rent paid, and transport and alot more is supplied.

    Should refugees who are here for shelter be allowed to go home on holiday. If they have family in a safe area perhaps they could of found shelter there.

    Should refugees be allowed to leave shelter in another EU country and come to Ireland.

    Should large amounts of refugees be placed in very small communities where services are badly over stretched and sometimes non existent.

    What will be seen as enough before we become totally swamped and services are totally not working for anyone. Like accommodation at the moment.

    How do we know that some of these people are refugees when some show up with no documentation, sorry documentation must be destroyed in flight. And also are they running from oppression or feared of punishment for something



    These are just a few of my own questions And there are lots more .But tell me by asking these questions does this make me right wing or a racist.



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