Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

It'd upset Hamas and their cheerleaders if Leo was actually honest so its kid gloves time.

Oh sweet jesus yourself. welcome to your language lesson on Sunday.

people are drowned at sea, shot, blown up with bombs at war, suffocated with Covid , starved during famine and we call all of them lost.

We don’t describe beyond that because it encourages facile pedantry.

(Which it seems is still possible when people are this immature)

No disrespect but you're talking complete nonsense.

The Taoiseach clearly deliberately chose to use the word "lost" rather than "Kidnapped" , she was never lost , nobody sensible would describe what had happened to her as being "lost", I mean she didn't go for a walk in the woods and forget how to find her way home. So he sat down put some thought into his tweet and decided that in order to pander to supporters of Hamas he would describe her as lost and not accurately describe her as being kidnapped.

Nobody described Ashling Murphy as having died they describe her as having been killed/murdered which is how to accurately describe what happened to her.

It is not pedantry to expect the Taoiseach to be able to say someone was kidnapped when they were kidnapped.

Well thats a pretty useless lesson, but hey Sunday school what do you expect? Still a bold strategy to use examples that discredit your own claim.

Maybe you didn't notice, although I don't know how you missed it, but all you examples revolved around death. Its certainly common to refer to people who died as having lost their life, hence why the word lost can be used to refer to deceased.

Now great news for you to just learn is that Emily didn't die so using "lost" in the context you are trying to claim is nonsensical unless the person using it isn't a native speaker and just making a genuine contextual error.

So using lost in this way does suggest Emily took a wrong turn walking around and stumbled into Hamas captivity of her own accord. The correct word would be kidnapped in Emily's case. Yet given Hamas didn't just focus on kids you could say "abducted" or an even more neutral version of that again by just saying "taken".

Hamas are maniacs who would hang you for being gay or sleeping with a separated person

Despite that reality,Palestine's last election made them the government which basically gave them legitimacy to lob dozens of rockets into Israel as often as they liked

Spiral created for Israel to continue the retribution

I know we all have a desire for peace and an empathy for the state of the Palestinians after nearly 2 months of this but do the 'gays for Palestine ' you see marching not realise that most of the people they're supporting would have them hanged ?

It's odd

The numbers arrested at the march yesterday were 0.002% of all who attended, not the 2% you said I referred to, even it was only 1 in 10 of those who were attending and misbehaving, its still only .02% meaning 99.998% of those who attended were well intentioned.

What % of Muslims are preaching hate and kill the unbelievers? What a crazy question, like would you really expect me to have mulled over such a figure?

But lets say that all of Hamas, all of ISIS, all of the Taliban, all of Boko Haram every single one of their members preach hate and want to kill unbelievers (there is likely not the case given many people on this thread have said that lots of their members join them simply to have jobs). But if this was the case, then the figure would probably be around 200,000 devout, radical islamists. (By the way, I've over inflated the numbers of each group above what is stated for them on a quick google search)

That would equate to 0.01% of the all the muslims in the world, or to put it another way, 1 in 10,000. Do you think any group should be defined by the actions of 0.01% of its members meaning the 99.99% are irrelevant? (For the record, I expect the true number of absolutely devout radical islamists is less than suggested here.

I think if it was known in advance that the protest was not going to have a high police presence, there'd have been more right wing extremists there than radical islamists. (You should run the numbers on arrests vs attendees at the right wing march to the cenotaph recently for comparison, let me know what you come up with)

Its like saying Hamas killed people when they brutally murdered them.

Shameful, mealy-mouthed, and pathetic comments.

Varadkar is the most plastic, choreographed, least sincere, and staged-managed leader we have ever known. He is the reason why I ended my 30+ year membership of the Fine Gael parliamentary party last year.

No links?

I haven't seen anyone post the whole quite from Varadkar. It's clear he sees her as a hostage that has been freed. He uses those exact words. But you know...agendas

"An innocent child who was lost has now been found and returned, and our country breathes a massive sigh of relief. Our prayers have been answered," he said.

"When I met Tom and Natali in Dublin, their pain was etched on their faces, but so was their courage and determination to ensure that Emily would be freed. I shared their grief and was inspired by their example. Irish people everywhere share in the relief of Emily's family," Mr Varadkar said in a statement.

"Emily now returns to her family, but we cannot forget that many more hostages remain in captivity in Gaza. Their fate is unknown, but we hope that like Emily, they will also be allowed to return to their homes and their families.

"We think of all the families suffering in this troubled region, and we redouble our efforts to work for a permanent ceasefire, and for a just a lasting peace," the Taoiseach said.