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Cycling in your late 40's... Do you relate?

  • 24-11-2023 8:05pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭


    Evening,

    I hope you are well and enjoying the start of your weekend.

    I have cycled loads over the years and still commute most days to work.

    As I approach my late 40's I have noticed some subtle signs of ageing...

    I have noticed when I extend my leg my knees will click.. no pain..

    And first thing in the morning or at points in the day I can kind of feel my knees if you know what I mean...

    They are a bit tight and slightly stiff but feel better after warming up ...

    No real pain but I feel them and am less likely to sprint out of the saddle...

    It is like you still feel good and strong.. just a little stiffer and more fragile!

    Do you relate to this?

    What signs of ageing have you noticed?

    (Not looking for medical advice btw!)


    How do you adapt to cycling and fitness as you get older?

    Do you push as hard as when you are younger or do you focus more on rest and recovery...

    Thanks for reading,


    A



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭mrpdap


    I’m early sixties and have been exercising consistently over the last 12+ years, meaning 5 times per week, for an hour.

    Nothing competitive, just a working on keeping active. I used to do cardio exclusively but started weight training earlier this year which I’m loving.

    I haven’t had any serious injuries, if I’ve a niggle I let it recover.

    Keep going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,880 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I'm a few years younger than you, though not much.

    Fitness is all relative for me, I find that due to personal or life circumstances I've often gone through phases where I'm fitter or less fit than I was a couple of years before. I was fitter at 42 than I was at any point since my late 20's I reckon but the last couple years have seen it drop off significantly although I'm starting to work on that.

    I had back issues through out most of my 30's that I never really got the better of until I started consistent frequent exercise again in my late 30's. If you saw a video of me then versus at 42 like I said, you'd reckon I had gotten younger rather than older.

    I did get knocked off my commuting bike 6 months ago by another cyclist who veered in to my path when looking at a phone. Man, that felt like I had been hit by a bus. Winded me for about 3 minutes and I bashed up my elbow (no break thankfully) and ribcage and was feeling the effects for about 6 weeks. One other obvious thing I've noticed is that my average and peak heart rate has dropped a couple beats from when I was younger. And I've no doubt lost the explosiveness that I would have had (though it was never much to be fair).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭Arequipa


    Thanks mrpdap.. fair play to you....

    I will keep going!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    46, train hard on the bike for racing & do a 3/4 month gym block in the winter. While yes I do get a little tired & a bit creaky I’d recommend strength work in the gym as off the bike it has helped hugely.

    Sleep, gym & bike with a reasonable diet will see you as best you can be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭beggars_bush




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭dahat




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    I commute to work by bike since my twenties and am noticing that I don't have the same range of mobility in my 40's. For example I find it hard to turn my head to look at traffic behind when taking a right hand turn. I now have to turn my whole shoulders and neck to see behind me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭Arequipa


    Ha haaa!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,307 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    On the other hand when I cycle for a couple of weeks I'm much more flexible, bending, lifting, crouching tasks are a lot easier than the weeks when I don't get the exercise on the bike.

    After this years holiday in France (swimming & cycling every day dragging nutbag kids around in a trailer) I really really felt the difference when back in work.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭Johnny Jukebox


    I'm 10 years ahead of you and had the same issues until I started doing Pilates twice weekly. I don't really like it but it's resolved all my back and knee issues and increased my mobility and flexibility.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I've lapsed but another thumbs up for Pilates here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    Im nearly 48. Started cycling 10 years ago and I was definitely fitter in the past 2 years than at any stage since my teens. I'm a carpenter so I'm well accustomed to creaks and clicks from various body parts. The bike has probably helped delay the onset of a lot more. I do yoga once a week and a few basic stretches most mornings to get me going.

    The biggest difference I find now is that if I go for a skip of drink it takes me about 3 days to recover.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    52 myself. Only back cycling in the last 6 years or so and not long distances except for a recent attempt at bike packing which I will probably do more of. I'm overweight and not the fittest but manage ok mainly because I have played 5 a-side footie in the astro 3 times a week for 20 years or so which has kept me from becoming a total slob. Unfortunately my heart decided to attack me when I was 46 so these days my biggest problems are if I take a knock then bruises etc. take a while to heal up because I'm on blood thinners. Old age is great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,622 ✭✭✭secman


    66 here and try to get out 4 times a week on the bike. Always did some kind of exercise, soccer, karate, running,swimming and cycling. Eventually had to give up soccer at 30 karate early twenties, running 50's (chronic siatica) swimming late 50's, shoulder issues. Nearly had to give up cycling due to chronic back issues. Had bike fit, changed office chair, raised the monitor, you name it,I tried it...Pilates is my saviour, just sorry i only started 3 years ago rather than 33 years ago. Since mid 50's I get annual check ups. When I hit 60's had full cardiac screening done on a recommendation from my trusted physio. On some meds now, but as cardiologist said just a few additives to keep a good engine running sweet in a vintage body. 😀Beauty of cycling is no pounding, twisting or turning.

    Main thing I notice now is recovery time takes a tad longer, can't go out with Group 1 for full year, currently going out with Group 2 and hopefully back our with Group 1 May to October.

    Usually try to hit 10,000 km for the year but will fall short this year probably 9,500km is achievable. Bad start to the year, and 3 week lay off in September post covid have hampered this year's target.

    Sorry for long post

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    similar to @mewso above, I'm 51 now but had a major heart attack back in 2015 (during my parents 50th wedding anniversary dinner!). Cardiologist managed to put a stent in one of the arteries (the "widowmaker") about 10 days after the event. This artery was 100% blocked and in theory should have left me horizontal but although some heart muscle died (as it was a few days before I went for medical help), my heart (after a few months) had managed to compensate for this and blood flow is quite strong again.

    I had been doing a bit of cycling before it but really took to it about four years ago. Now, I'm quite fit and healthy and aim to get about 250kms on the bike each week (with about 1500m). The meds I'm on now have my blood pressure down which means that when I really push myself, I can feel it so I tend to limit my heart rate to a max of about 150bpm (on my Garmin). This unfortunately means that I can't zoom up the hills (or at least that's my excuse!).

    I also used to have joint issues and would especially feel it in damp or wet weather but actually found that in the last number of years I'm not as stiff. Whether this is because of the cycling or just coincidental, I don't know.

    When I cycle, I find that I push myself. I'm not really a big fan of going slow. I'll try and better my time for a segment or improve my average time for a spin.

    At this point, despite being older and a bit battered, I'm probably fitter than I've ever been. Yesterday, I passed the 11,000km mark for 2023 and expect that to be over 12,000 by New Years Eve. Back in 2019, I did my first ever 100+km spin. I've done around 40 of them this year.

    Age is just a number. Personally, the only real way I see or feel that I'm getting old is that my hair has more grey in it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭manatoo


    Early 40s here. Was an avid cyclist up until 2 years ago. Elbows is my problem. My daily cycle to work is 30 minutes each way, 8km, on a hybrid and by the time I'm home both elbows are a pain to even straighten. I used to be able to complete the ring of Kerry in under 6 hours including stops throughout my 30s 😞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Is that due to arm muscle strength or lack of flexibility in upper body?


    Do some yoga and or pilates



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,675 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    would drop bars allow you to change the position of your arms (both in the sense that you'd be able to orient your arms differently, and that you could change back and forth during the ride so as not to be in the same position for the whole length of the ride)?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭monkeyslayer


    I'd look into a bike fit and in particular your hand position, you'd be surprised how much of a difference it could make. I had similar when I changed handlebars on a bike, in my case it was aero dropbars, i was in a lot of pain during and post ride... whatever way they were encouraging me to put my hands/palms flat on the hoods and then twisting my arms etc.

    Post edited by monkeyslayer on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,472 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    How do you manage to fit in so much distance all year round?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Commuting, club spins and any free time. It does take some discipline.

    Edit: I also look to reach 250km per week. Smaller goals are more easily achieved!

    Post edited by Seth Brundle on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭manatoo


    Neither. It's bad joints. My mother is riddled with the same problem and it started in her mid 30s. No clear diagnosis. She just takes tons of steroids and anti inflammatories for it but obviously in her mid 70s she doesn't do any kind of exercise that would demand functioning joints. I've had injections for tennis elbow on both sides. Made no difference.


    It's not just my elbows that are going this way. Knees fingers knuckles back etc all going bad too. The elbows are the immediately limiting factor though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    The older I get the motivation to get up early, and get out on the road is the most limiting factor, once out on the road I'm happy.

    To overcome the lack of motivation to get out i find it useful to have somebody to meet which forces my hand to get out on time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Hardest distance is the 2 meters to the front door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Biggest difference I can see is natural stamina - in my early 30s I drove down to Kerry, hopped on the bike and did the Ring of Kerry cycle with zero training. No way would I do that now, even though I am doing a 90 minute cycle 3 or 4 times a week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Thats the one aspect of cycling I feel I miss out on - Ive never been in a club. Always felt it would be too time consuming and prescriptive - I like to go to Phoenix Park and do trails, or maybe cycle road out to Portmarnock/ Howth for 90 minutes (living northside Dublin). But maybe I should bite the bullet, as I find generally getting older there are less opportunities to socialise with people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Just your comment above - 'obviously in her mid-70s' - I know health is a bit of a lottery ticket but I would be pretty hopeful that I would still be out on the bike regularly in mid-70s.

    Weight training the thing here though, we need to work harder to maintain muscle as we get older.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,472 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    my road bike is in the shed at the bottom of the garden. Going out at this time of year also involves putting on a lot of kit, and daylight is in short supply, it's all a real disincentive to getting out for anything other than the regular weekend spin.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭rflynnr


    I'm 52. Some days that feels old. Some days that feels, as others have said, like no more than a number. I don't seem to discernibly slower than I was 20 years ago (though I was never fast) nor does the actual doing of long distances (100km-plus) phase me any more than they did in the past. My resting heart rate has also remained unchanged since I was about 30 so there's a fair bit of give in the cardiovascular system. But if I do do something over 80km, my recovery time is definitely longer than it used to be so I'm a bit more conscious of looking after myself when I finish: taking a protein drink, resting etc. I've also adjusted my exercise "regime": it used to be pretty much all cardio (swimming and cycling) but for the past 5 years there's been weight-training for strength and yoga for flexibility.

    The thing that most affects me is not caused by cycling but often causes me to be off the bike for extended periods: an as yet undiagnosed, but recurrent respiratory issue which seems to be related to an - at times - almost non-existent immune system (despite assiduously taking Vitamin C and D every day along with zinc and magnesium). I've always had a tendency towards not full-on asthma but atopic sensitivity and that has become more acute with age.

    That said, my working assumption is that I'll be cycling in my 70s. Perhaps a bit slower but I've never been in a massive hurry anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    FUnny that - I have the exact same thing with immune system and breathing. This time of year, always get head colds, runny noses and cold sores to beat the band.

    Yoga - do you do a class or how does that work?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Londonirish72


    Early 50s here. I'd cycle on average 10,000 km each year but I also jog a little bit and tend to walk as much as possible.

    In my mid 40s I did notice that I was increasingly suffering from constant muscle soreness after rides and I was definitely losing power on climbs and sprints. However, I took up yoga and more recently weight training in the gym and these two activities have made a positive impact on how I feel. I know that I will never really trouble Strava segments again (if I ever did in the first place) but I feel so much more flexible and a number of small niggles (clicking knees) have disappeared.

    You really cannot fight the aging process but to a degree you can control your weight, fitness and overall flexibility. I think it helps to view physical activities positively and not as something you have to endure. Cycling is social, weight training allows my mind to zone out and the gym is pleasant on wet days and yoga really does seem to work for me though I am usually the only male in the class.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    I think to be honest - you;ve contradicted yourself there. You cant fight actual aging, but all the things your are doing will fight the aging process. I mean that as a compliment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭manatoo


    Well my mother hasn't cycled a bike since the 1950s! But assuming you meant generally for people in their 70s, I agree it's nice to think that way but having watched my father in law (74, picture of health in all respects) who cycled continuously from the mid 1980s until about 3 years ago, slowly put an end to his cycling, it's not really fitness that gets you. It's reaction times and brittle bones. On the reaction times, he just found he wasn't razor sharp enough to cycle in closely packed groups anymore. In terms of bone density etc, he became concerned that a fall could mean serious injury in a way it wouldn't have when he was younger.


    He still gets out for 15k jaunts but he doesn't enjoy solitary cycling and for the reasons laid out above he had to leave his club



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭rflynnr


    I know. I keep being referred to specialists but the gap between the initial referral and actually being seen is so long (from six months to literally years) that I've never had the symptons at the point of being seen so it's hard to definitive about the symptoms.


    And as for yoga: my partner has done it for years and she pointed me in the direction of online resources (youtube videos). There's a terrifying range of possibilities out there. I don't want to over-state it: I do about 10-15 mins every morning (with Sarah Beth (https://youtu.be/QdvYqz-b0Xo?si=6IuvEq4j8xzCCXaf) and after a long cycle there's a couple of (Bike Radar-sponsored) post-cycle videos (again 10-15 mins) that are worth a look (https://youtu.be/uhF5_Ds21TI?si=udQPrx0tYxnAqxi5).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭RiderOnTheStorm


    Im 55 and returning to cycling after many years gap. Got a new job and decided to commute by bike. Tried a regular mountain bike and felt the muscles ache at end of day. Then changed jobs and wanted to keep up the cycle, but new job was 10 miles from home. So I got a cheap ebike and LOVE it. So much easier on the knees & hills . Cant say it has speeded up the commute (as had new bike with newest commute so cant compare to prev bike) but Im arriving fresh(ish) and not covered in sweat. The effort is def reduced bit I am getting more exercise now than last few years, and building up stamina too.


    Seeing a lot of positives in prev posts for yoga. Would love to give it a go. Def feel that the older I get, the slower it is to recover if I get a twinge or stretch (which seem to happen more often now). Good diet is essential too ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Best I had was a dust allergy, but not sure what I can do with that bar spend 30 hours a week tidying the house. What I actually think now is that its due to jaw misalignment (years of thumb sucking) which means I have always been a mouth breather.

    On the other - I have a few chronic knee problems which led to me taking up weight training and yes the secondary benefits were substantial.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    44 here and I still enjoy the odd spin into the city and back to the suburbs. Biggest change is the lack of power on the uphills coming out of the city centre. I still try give it a good effort but ive lost a chunk of my power in the last 15 years. Head winds batter me and I curse them more than ever.

    I also feel an extra layer of cautiousness when at speed. If I come off the bike it will hit that little be harder now I suspect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,624 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    I wasn't active in my 20's and 30's, so I'm immeasurably better now than the morbidly obese person I was 15 years ago than now in my late 40's.

    I know. I keep being referred to specialists but the gap between the initial referral and actually being seen is so long (from six months to literally years) that I've never had the symptons at the point of being seen so it's hard to definitive about the symptoms.

    I went through the process of camera up the nose with a (private) consultant just to be told nothing wrong, just to do less exercise, outside 🙄 In fairness, I did stop swimming, where even open water could set me off, which did help a lot. I've other allergy issues (eczema, hayfever), so the GP upped my daily anti-histamines from the over the counter, and then a nasal spray and inhaler, given me giving up wasn't an option. n=1 I generally find my sinus playing up is the first sign I'm a bit run down/ need more sleep now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭RikkFlair


    45 and feeling a lot of tiredness in last year or 2, started cycling regularly about 6/7 years ago after a decade or more of no exercise whatsoever. I don't really feel like I'm losing fitness while on the bike, and the strava stats says my avg speeds are pretty much the same, it seems to be off the bike is where I struggle, the 3pm slump almost becomes a siesta. Have had plenty bloods done, nothing shows up.

    I'm certainly not over-training, the minimum I would do in a week (pretty much winter months) is a 30k ride midweek and maybe another at weekend or else a 5k parkrun. Obviously in summer I would do much more than that. Strava says I have done 4,000km this year as well as 300km running. No injuries or niggles or anything, touch wood. I took a week off all exercise last week to see if I felt refreshed but no change. I'm sitting down all day, going through a process of elimination to see if I can solve the mystery fatigue.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    55 years old. I average 250/300k per week. I'm on target to exceed 14500k for the year. Never felt better! Hopefully I'll be doing the same if not more when i retire!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭monkeyslayer


    Far from being an expert in such matters but I suffered from tennis elbow for years and tried everything. It wasn't going away naturally. So much so the cortisone injections no longer had any effect and physio etc was a waste of money. A friend with similar chronic pain to yours reccomended me MSM supplements from Holland & Barrett about a year ago and they've been nothing short of a miracle. Took a few weeks but soon i started to think less and less about it. I couldn't tell you much of the science behind it but it's anti inflammatory properties have helped so much. Still get the occasional flare up but it hardly registers, far from that constant ache that would keep me awake all night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    the older you get the more that strength training becomes important, for muscle and heart health and bone density



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,155 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I'm in my fifties, and I certainly notice that I'm passed out by other cyclists more often than would have previously been the case. It doesn't bother me in the slightest, I do my cycle commute, usually four or five days a week. It's an amazing way to fit exercise into your day, and get something useful from your commute time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    For me its by far the easiest way to incorporate exercise into your life. It was actually the only real downside to WFH for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Totally agree!.. I'm one of the few people where I work who does NOT want to WFH on a regular basis, as i would miss my commute too much. I do get passed by other cyclists but I just tell myself they are either on e-bikes or their commute distance is much shorter then mine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭rflynnr


    As a follow-up: I went out to Laragh last Saturday. It was cold but kind of magical, especially coming back in the dark. I joined Stocking Lane on the way up coming from the direction of Cruagh Woods and I spotted a cyclist in a hi-viz vest maybe 400m ahead. Without even thinking about it I had a "I wonder how long it'll take to catch him" moment. There were a few twists and turns and he passed out of sight but I fully expected to see him a little closer when the road straightened out.

    And see him I did. Not one inch closer and, if anything. even further ahead.

    I didn't speed up or slow down: in general, in the past, I've always just been a bit faster than the cyclist ahead of me. But as we climbed he remained stubbornly distant past Military Road, Glencree, and the turn for Powerscourt Waterfall. As I started the climb up past Lough Bray, he appeared to have slowed a little and I thought "Ah, he doesn't like climbing. Got him." Not a bit of it. He basically disappeared and I had an epiphany: "HE is faster. YOU are older."

    (I did eventually pass him at Sally Gap but only because he'd stopped to refuel.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Londonirish72


    I guess I did not express myself very well. Yes, we cannot fight the aging process but what we can do is try to keep ourselves as healthy as possible so that we can remain mobile and independent as long as possible.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Some of the posts reminded me of my bikepacking trip in france over the summer. At one point I was struggling up a very long hill and considering dismounting to finish it on foot only to turn a bend and see a group of french cyclists getting ready to go for a spin. Now I'm not the most ego driven of people but at that point I became determined to stay the course. I was not about to give up while passing the local club cyclists (all very friendly to be fair - bonjours all round). They obviously set off shortly after I passed them and eventually they all passed me. Then once they were out of sight I could stop and collapse on the ground.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    Soccer on Sunday, gravel ride tonight.

    18 months from 50.

    Do not go gentle into that good night,

    Old age should burn and rave at close of day;

    Rage, rage against the dying of the light

    😊



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