Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Sinn Fein are a left wing 'social justice' party, on the side of the poor and minorities (witness their support for the Palestinians).

They couldn't possibly move to being an anti-immigration party, not without abandoning their left wing and social justice credentials (it would mean targeting immigrants - an obvious minority in Ireland - and somehow seeking to blame them for the country's problems....completely at odds with everything they say they stand for). Even FF or FG becoming anti-immigration would make more sense.

And if I don't want to subscribe to that publication ? Even free ...there's no such thing !

You are saying that that is the only way to see this article completely ?

Why cannot you or another Business Pisst reader share the article if behind a paywall?

I thought that was the usual etiquette on Boards ?

If people want to discuss it properly we need to see the entire poll . ( we have talked about this before, Gen Zhukov )

It's almost like people are afraid to actually show it in its entirety ?

A recap to date on the polling situation below - which seems to show that there is no real "anti-immigration" mob like some here would have us believe. It does though, look like the majority of people do want controlled immigration and not the free for all that we are currently experiencing care of an increasingly incompetent government

We've had four polls on this situation this year - 1 commissioned by Virgin Media (Ipsos I think) - 1 commissioned by the IT - and 2 commissioned by The SBP

• VM tonight show poll - 'Do you think the Govt is doing a good job re refugees/asylum seekers?' YES 10% - NO 90%
• IT poll - Q. Do you agree or disagree with - "There is a limit to the number of asylum seekers/refugees Ireland can cope with?" A. Agree 84% - Disagree 11% - (don’t know 5%)
• The SBP Red-C poll - 'Do you think Ireland has taken in too many refugees?' - Yes 75%
• NEW SBP - Red C asked if people agreed or disagreed with the statement that since the start of the Ukraine war Ireland has taken in too many refugees: 62 per cent said they agreed, while 20 per cent said Ireland must continue to take in refugees of the Ukraine war. Some 14 per cent took a neutral stance and 3 per cent said they didn’t know.

For a democratic state, there's a fierce whiff of autocracy off it

Tell me about it ;)

SBP - Red C seem to keep asking badly worded / loaded questions though. What does 'too many' Ukrainian refugees even mean? Ireland should have taken in 5000 Ukrainians instead of 100,000? Or 70,000 alternatively? Such a badly worded and imprecise question is inviting people to agree with the proposition.

Sure Straz, it's all about the wording

bad, bad, bad wording - Blaming the wording = grasping at straws

The current approach by Tds since the protests in Eastwall began to Ignore them clearly isn,t working.

I have said it before on another thread and I,ll say it again.

East wall and ballybrack where the protests are ongoing the local tds in those areas to call public meetings in both areas and have a garda representative present where the garda representative can give assurances to people that any new people arriving into the area have had their passports checked and that they are valid passports to address people,s concerns and I said locals tds where the tds can be asked questions by locals and if anyone has any grievance towards government policy on migration they want to air they can air it.

Some actual dialogue to local communities because there has been little to none since these protests started.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120937106/#Comment_120937106

If those types of questions were asked in any scientific study it would never pass peer review.

They 'have ways of making you talk ,' the analysts who set up the polls, and this has been a criticism of Red C polls before , because they don't try to remove confounding factors when setting up their sample , pop samples, the bias of the study and the way the questions are phrased .

Of course I can't really comment completely as THE COMPLETE POLL HAS NOT BEEN published or shared here , so it's obviously got some secrets to hide? Like the sample it polled and how it selected them etc ;)

Yeah , won't be believing that until can read it in its entirety first , very sneaky of SBP as usual.

But opinion poll after opinion poll is saying the same thing. I take your point but it seems that given we've taken 100,000 Ukrainian refugees in such a short space of time and with our housing shortage, it's hardly surprising that a majority of Irish people don't want anymore Ukrainian refugees to come here.

The government agrees and is about to make conditions for Ukrainian refugees harder when they come here.

You do realise it's a Green Minister who wants to restrict benefits to any new Ukrainian refugees that arrives here.

Does that make the Greens anti immigrant?

Just caught the end of Tonight with Miram, or Today Tonight or Scratch Saturday or whatever they fock they call the monday night programme now.

RTE really desperate to make the events from last week all about the "Far roih" and not about the immigration problems. Do they really think any of us will believe that those little sh1ts robbing the shops have any political ideation whatsoever? Honest to goodness!

How about RTE bring in the boyfriend or family member of Aisling Murphy and tell them that their daughter's death had nothing to do with the immigration problem and see how that goes for them.

And quoting the Virgin media poll. Sure that's like quoting any poll from Twitter or Facebook. Actually meaningless.

The government agrees? Then why were "Government of Ireland™" adverts run yesterday on national radio basically pleading with people to offer up spare rooms, spare holiday homes or houses?

The language may have changed but the policy has not.

It wasn’t the readers of the Business Post who polled. It was a Red-C poll across all of Ireland.