"the Irish far-right loathe Ireland more than anyone else", Joe Brolly has said

What fraction were made up of people who were horrified at the earlier events and wished to voice their anger with the current system ? Or are far right and yobs the only options ?

joe brolly - enough said

By preserve what we had what exactly do you mean?

There was one thing in common with all those people rioting or protesting or whatever they felt they themselves were doing.

That would have been the one brain cell they share between the lot of them.

Far right and rioters generally are thick individuals.

You're getting a little confused there

Are you taking the piss?

A group of dumb irish lads shouting "up the ra", sure thats never ever happened before...

Next you'll be saying the "Ole ole ole" song is a far right anthem.

I think it's very unlikely the people shouting that actually vote and even if they did it's marginal. In fact most of "them" believe Sinn Fein to be a sell out.

Those looting and rioting have no political ideals... they're just a bunch of Scummers, that hate the Brits, (and indeed most people that aren't white and Irish)

Like depending on who you ask, there is no serious contender RW political party in Ireland. (nor is there a LW party, again depending on who you ask), and that in a nutshell is the problem with *wing politics

Good post. They do hate Ireland, no question about that. The lads who were rioting were just inner city lads, most of whom wouldn't have a clue about immigration politics but they will take their chance to give the police some abuse and riot and loot if they can get away with it. It's been said before even at these far right type things in Finglas "these young lads haven't got a clue about any of this, I had to tell them who klaus schwab was etc" from one of those lunatic far right types which are so prevalent on here. Ultimately the far right lads do hate Ireland as it is and as it will be and it's quite enjoyable to know that they will live their lives in perpetual angst lol

Being racist scum would be a good start.

Everyone in the country has issues with the government on the things you mention. What marks the far right crowd out is that they want ultra simplistic (usually authoritarian or draconian) solutions to everything, as if a society can be run on three word slogans.

That’s the game, try and lump in skilled migrants that pay their own way with refugees that have highly questionable stories and then bring in a blanket amnesty a few years later even for those with criminal records. More onto the housing list and into the welfare state. What could go wrong?

30% of the Australian population (7.5m people) weren't born there. How did that come about? It's actually one of the most multicultural countries in the western world.

We hardly need Joe Brolly to tell us that those people have nothing to offer in the way of solutions.

But seeing as he has chimed in I agree with him.

There appears to be some debate over whether these people were far right or whether they were hijacked by a bunch of yobs out for carnage. But I fail to see the difference

Back in the days of Catholic Ireland when the bishops ran the country anyone who stepped out of line was labelled a ‘Red’ or a communist to shut them up, we know about Noel Browne for example.

Now people are labelled ‘far right’ to shut them up …. plus ca change.

wasnt Australia known for having a points system, if you are considered useful , you have a better chance of getting in, and Ive heard recently that they give preferential treatment for working up time in the outback, would they give a waster who hadnt worked 20 years citizenship? i'd hope not

A quick google tells me Australia have taken 1 million refugees in the last 50 years or so. They are given some financial support and medicare cards. They are also helped find accommodation by various organisations. So you wouldn't be happy there either.

Canada is similar, points system, though it's one in four who have been or are a landed immigrant. You also have to bear in mind also, that you can't just give a visa to one person, you have to bring their family too, spouse , kids, parents.

A quick look at recent squads for the Australian football teams includes these players

Thomas Deng, Awer Mabil, Mohamed Toure, Garang Kuol, Nestory Irankunda

Every one of them was born in a refugee camp in Africa before making their way to Australia and being granted asylum and later citizenship. And that's five examples from a very select group of Australians. The overall numbers are surely much higher. Australia isn't really the tough state its reputation suggests.