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NBA 23/24:season

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,344 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    IMO I'd gladly take porzingus + holiday over smart + brogdan + williams


    They are a significant upgrade. You can even hear Tatum and Browne talk about how good Porzingus is, andhow it sort of surprised them



  • Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭hole in my lovelywall


    I also love Nikola, but he does seem to have given up on this team recently too. I’d say promises were made when he signed his extension that have already been reneged upon.

    Coby is getting better every game.

    Alex must have the best value. I’d hate to see him leave.

    DeMar is still clutch.

    I thought Lavine had obvious attitude problems since last year. I won’t miss him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,069 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Yeah it's time for Chicago to blow it up, they could get a decent haul of picks for DeRozan/Lavine/Caruso/Vuc and they've got almost all of their own FRPs for the next few years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Genius move by Popovich last night to ask the fans to stop booing Kawhi. He gets the media now to talk about this stunt rather than the Spurs being 3-12 and the worst team in the western conference.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,448 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    The Spurs aren't meant to be good yet. Hes playing Sochan as a point guard for the year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,856 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    Giddey could be in big trouble, will be interesting to see how the nba handle this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,069 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Surely that should've been a tech for Pop? Shouting down the PA system while the other team is taking FTs??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,069 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Clippers still not looking good, 3 of their 6 wins are against the Spurs and another against Portland.

    This is the healthiest they'll ever be too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,423 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,069 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    And still half of those wins are against the worst team in the west, they're below .500 with all their stars healthy and I can't see a world in which Kawhi and PG play 70+ games tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,069 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Bad night all around for LA; LeBron suffers his heaviest ever NBA defeat to Philly and the Clippers lose another bad one against a Nuggets team missing Jokic, Murray, and Gordon. (Westbrook also found himself courtside arguing with a fan while the ball was in play at one point)

    Pistons retain the title of worst team in the NBA for another night, losing at home to Washington to extend their losing streak to 14 in a row. Jordan Poole has had as many or more FGAs than Points in 9 of his 16 appearances this season.

    Portland (worst offence in the league) beat Indiana (best offence in the league) with Scoot Henderson looking like he's starting to find his footing; 5-7 from 3 in his last 2 games, after going 2-24 on the season prior. He's been wearing goggles since his return from injury so maybe he really was just blind out there before 😅. The Blazers are also 4-4 when he plays versus 1-8 when he doesn't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Which LA team will have a better season I wonder? Not looking good for either of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,069 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Lakers will be better imo, they can make more moves to improve.

    The Lakers have 5 FRPs between now and 2030, the Clippers have 1 (in 2030). Clippers also have a lot more of their salary tied up in players they won't want to trade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    You are talking about future years. I was asking about this year only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,069 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    No I mean the Lakers will be better than Clippers this year because they can use their future picks to trade for upgrades. The Clippers have fewer trade assets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I can't see the Lakers spending this year. They know it's likely Lebron's last year and you don't build anything around a player that's gone at the end of the season. You wait until next year to see where you're at and then rebuild.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭Corvo


    They will absolutely spend, LeBron has already let his thoughts known in that regard with his post game interview.

    I watched that game against the Sixers. Lakers downed tools at 25 down and Sixers had a freak night from 3 (albeit, the perimeter defense was poor from LA but that will improve with Reddish, Vincent and Vanderbilt back). It was a black mark but Lakers should be fine for a 5-6 seed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭hole in my lovelywall


    Aren’t the lakers the only team to be rumoured to be interested in Zach Lavine? They must be desperate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Why would you be worried about what LBJ has to say? You'll use all the right words with the media but he's falling off a cliff now. He's well outside the top 10 in PPG, APG and rebounds.

    Why would you spend big now?

    I'd be planning for the future, definitely wouldn't be going all in or spending anything to improve this season. He's only going to get worse as the season drags on and he starts to feel it. At his age that's what happens eventually. He's defied it longer than maybe anybody but it's started now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭Corvo


    I'm not saying I agree with this totally, but Lakers have caved to LeBron on numerous occasions so why not again? And its not like they don't have numerous pieces they can move.

    Why not spend big now? They are just out of the WCF, albeit they were beaten by a much better team. If you arent going to spend now, they might as well shift AD too, which they obviously wont.

    Re LeBron's performances, I think its been generally regarded hes been playing to a very high level and has carried them through various games, but I agree he can't do it night after night (for instance he was brilliant against Cleveland but fell down against Sixers). He's looking far sharper in comparison to late last season where he was carrying an injury.

    I don't know EE, I can't agree with anything you've said there pal. And I don't want to come across like a LeBron SuperFan, but its going against all popular opinion, your post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭Corvo


    If they are its for the simple reason he offers serious spacing. I wouldn't like him there personally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,069 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    It's not like the Lakers need to worry about building through the draft anyway, they're the #1 Free Agent destination in the league



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,423 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    LeBron has been really good to start the year, and better than he was in the playoffs. It’s more of the gradual decline we’ve been seeing imo. Talking about “cliffs” is hopecasting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,069 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Detroit now 2-16, 15 losses in a row. They've had a worse opening 18 than the 7-59 Bobcats.

    Can't imagine them winning too many in the next month either, they could be going into 2024 with <5 Wins.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I agree that cliff was the wrong word but I do feel the decline is speeding up.

    He's become inconsistent now and there isn't any injury.

    He's probably, almost certainly, the greatest player in the history of the game post 35 years of age. Only one I can think of like him was Karl Malone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,344 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    josh giddey is more like karl malone IMO



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭Corvo




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,069 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Well they pulled it off, 0-15 in November...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,448 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    The fact they are managing to be worse than the heavily all-in tanking Poole/Kuzma Wizards is just impressive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭Corvo


    Boy was I glad I woke up to watch that Lakers/Suns game, what a brilliant match up. LeBron and KD went nuts and there was some real quality on show from both sides throughout. Lakers got the benefit of the whistle (they beat the hell out of Nurkic at times) and there was late controversy which I hope does not overshadow the quality from all players on both sides of the floor.

    The In Season Tournament has been a great success.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,423 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Yeah really good contest! Definitely had an edge beyond a normal regular season game in early December. Lakers Defense is looking very solid imo.

    Looking forward to the semis and finals this weekend



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,423 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    pretty ridiculous performance in year 21, still can do it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,423 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Pacers / Lakers on Saturday night!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭Corvo


    Yep, really looking forward to it. Not many players playing better than Haliburton right now. Stick Vando on him I say :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭hole in my lovelywall


    Don’t think anyone anticipated this sort of success for the IST. Great to see Haliburton getting so much attention.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭Corvo


    They really needed the star players to buy into it. LeBron, Tatum, Giannis etc. They all have/did. The rest followed.

    Pity the courts look like arse



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,069 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Zion and Ingram combine for 22 points last night. Zion looks so out of shape and we're 2 months into the season at this stage... Not sure he'll ever get in shape.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    So no sign of the Nuggets, Bucks, Celtics or Suns in the final of this thing.

    How have we come to the conclusion that everyone wanted to win it?

    Do you think its likely that none of those teams make the NBA finals?

    How many of them made the semi-finals?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    It's a one off game rather than a best of seven series so it would make sense that there would be more unpredictability in who comes through - the usual big names getting bounced is part of what's making it so enjoyable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    So it's no surprise to you that none of the teams with the best records in the regular season to this point have made the final just because it's a single game knockout?

    Makes no sense to me unless they don't care



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    These games also count as part of the regular season so there's no reason for any team to take a night off.

    Indiana v Boston had something approaching playoff intensity when the Pacers won; teams definitely seem to be taking it seriously. I don't find it too surprising to have unexpected results in a single elimination game tbh, very good teams will routinely lose 30+ games each season so unpredictability on a given night is to be expected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    So basically you are saying it's just like the regular season? There's nothing to it then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,423 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I'm not salty, I just think it's stupid.

    If you want to have a second event, do it like soccer. A knockout tournament over the course of the season that doesn't count towards the regular season.

    Theres 30 teams, it's only four games to go all the way.

    Four to win it for the top two seeds. I think the winner of each conference from the previous year should get the bye



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,423 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    I dunno, it’s exactly a knockout tournament running parallel to the regular season. The games just double for record.

    Honestly, it’s really innovative. Cup competition without extra wear and tear or extending the season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,423 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Spectacular performance from AD and the Lakers. Putting up a big score inspite of being 2 - 13 from 3. Just completely dominating inside on both ends.

    Lakers have found an identity so far this season. Great defense, long and athletic. LeBron and AD being healthy has been key.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,423 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Finished with 86 in the paint, most of any team this season.

    In my opinion the tournament was a success.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,069 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Spurs and Pistons extend to losing streak of 17 and 20 respectively, with the two highest paid coaches in the league too.



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