Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

It is working out exactly as Hamas planned it to. Poke the wasp's nest hard enough, and they will swarm out and attack you. And make no mistake, Hamas knew exactly what it was doing, down to the public outcry about innocent civilians being killed and injured in the ensueing bombing. Makes for great propaganda in the Arab world, and condemnation of Israeli brutality in the west. Exactly as planned by Hamas.

It has been quite outstanding how they have managed the propaganda and how they keep it going even as one lie after another is revealed:

(1) There are no tunnels

(2) There are tunnels but there are no tunnels under hospitals and schools

(3) There are tunnels including under hospitals but they were built by the Israelis

(4) There are tunnels including under hospitals originally built by Israelis and augmented by Hamas but they are not used as command centres

(5) There are tunnels including under hospitals originally built by Israelis and augmented by Hamas that were used as command centres but not anymore

And so the lie evolves, and people keep swallowing it.

This is a one time thing only where I run off to do your bidding.

That isn't what you claimed, that was a post talking in the abstract, not in the practical reality of what happened. What it said is quite clear, that beheading children is less callous than an air strike, but less callous doesn't mean justification. I think you didn't understand the post.

Lol. This is laughable, and unexpected.

As I said, one time only.

You said and I quote:

"there was very specific conversation on here in the weeks after Oct 7th where people were arguing that because 40 babies had been beheaded that Israel's response was justified."

The post you produced in response said nothing like that. All it said was that one type of activity was less callous than another type of activity. It did not seek to justify Israel's reponse in a very specific manner.

As I said, you do not appear to have understood the post.

You must know by now the agenda takes precedence over comprehension. Hence the whole "lost" rubbish.

Tell me the lie here

• 15k+ Palestinians killed,
• 5K+ of them children.
• 1-2K total Hamas fighters killed (Israel estimates)
• 30k+ injured
• 1M+ Displaced

But you go ahead and deflect and twist all you want to avoid these realities because 800 Israelis died at the hands of Hamas.

Well, I have set out how the Hamas propaganda on here about the tunnels has already evolved. Each time something new is revealed about the tunnels (remember they didn't exist at all according to the doctors in the hospital), the story adapts and changes.

As I said, I'm waiting until concrete (excuse the pun) information emerges about the tunnels. But to my mind, when Hamas was able to launch 3'000 missiles in one day, and another 7'000 in the following days, that speaks volumes to me. It meant that Hamas managed to store at least 10'000 missiles (but most likely more) underground, plus the coordination needed to transfer them from storage to their firing point. So, 3'000 in 24 hours = 125 per hour. This took organization, but they have had plenty of practice over the years. The bottom line is, they managed to do it, and no doubt they would still be doing it only for the IDF is slowly shutting down their tunnel operations.

It absolutely matched up pretty much exactly with the point I was try to make.

I said that people had used the manner of the deaths in the Hamas attack to justify Israels response. Here was poster saying that killing the same number of babies with a bomb was less callous. Ergo, the bomb is justified.

We've had every trick pulled here, claims of antisemitism, holocaust denial, Hamas supporter and so on. All to justify Israels brutal excessive and illegal response. Not saying you're doing, others have, including some asking me to run off and find posts.

I'm not sucked in by anything. All comments I make are in relation to events published somewhere, mostly with video evidence. Ignoring all such events because of a set mind as to what happened on Oct 7th only comes across as prejudiced.

You're breaking nothing, I never said it did, I don't post anything (or at least I try not to) that I haven't seen from at least 2 different accounts.

And the same goes by the way with respect to Pro-Israeli events/broadcasts even when it is coming from the mouth of an official, that doesn't make it true.