Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Hmm okay. I see what you mean.

Just to be clear it's our politicians I'm calling far left on immigration as there is no debate about the subject.

Government and opposition are all championing the continuation of current policy. That's quite an unusual situation in politics.

It's the one subject not being debated. It's quite scary imo.

There needs to be a serious discussion in government about where we go from here.

I'd say many in government, are not so much "championing" policy, more keeping their mouths shut in case the R word is launched in their direction. Just playing along until the issue goes away.

Ireland losing its 12.5% tax rate n growing issue getting staff to relocate here with expensive/ non existent rentals is taking the shine off Ireland for MNCs. It's looking increasingly likely our corporation tax Klondike is drying up.

We're just adding up billions and billions that'll have to be found for all this.

This I fear could be our logical conclusion, same as several other EU states I.e. Holland, Italy, Poland etc.

We have a government of cowardice on the issue of immigration. The lack of healthy debate on the topic is leading to extremist fringe groups controlling the narrative. You're either anti immigration (far right) or pro unrestricted immigration (far left), the middle ground is being lost. As a self confessed centrist I worry how this may shape the future of society in Ireland. Centrism and moderate policies have gotten us a long way but the lack of political will to engage with a strong public sentiment on immigration could be ruinous.

My 2 cents on the issue. Immigration in general is positive. Diversity generally is a strength. However we have a government regulating immigration in the 2020s like the government of the 2000s regulated the financial sector. We all know how this story goes. The lack of reasonable immigration controls is causing problems. We have people tearing up travel documents so they won't be sent home, people with serious criminal records being allowed in and re-offending and people abusing the social welfare system. All of which is being done by native Irish but that's not the issue, don't import problems that you're not resourced to handle.

There are 2 types of immigrants in my mind:

1. Asylum seekers seeking refugee status due to conflict, famine, environmental disasters etc.

2. Economic migrants. Here to gain a better quality of life for themselves. Many do so via gainful employment, but a non-insignificant number are abusing social welfare to do so.

We need a regulated workable system that deals with both categories within the capability and resources of the State.

And yes, mismanagement of the state's resources is partly to blame. We're chronically short on housing, health care and public transport. But the solution is not to pour fuel on those fires. A temporary restriction / ban is required in my opinion on certain types of immigration until such time as the state's resources can handle increased levels. And also long term regulations and policies are needed to maintain equilibrium between the provision of services and population growth, irrespective if that's via immigration or natural growth.

There's a reluctance for government to propose such regulations due to the fear of being labelled racist. We stood up to international pressure around Israel's retribution attacks on Hamas/Palestine which was laudable. Time to find that backbone again and be willing to regulate immigration. The alternative is the rise of extreme politics in our state and more riots like last Thursday, or worse.

Third line…….it is not registered as a political party. That’s some in-depth research.

Well what's your view then. It seems obvious to me that support for housing refugees has dropped since February 2022.

The State has taken 100,000 Ukrainian refugees so far.

It will eventually happen. Ireland is a good bit behind Europe, but as was said 10 years ago about us having the same issues as other EU countries with uncontrolled immigration are now here. We were told it would never happen here because we were getting “doctors and engineers”, well it’s happening.

As an engineer in a large MNC myself, the main issue with hiring from within Ireland or elsewhere is people have nowhere to live. You're hoping to poach someone from across town and pass the problem off to that company instead. We've had to limit taking in students from abroad for internships too because there's nowhere for them to rent!

What your issue with men?

And We do have plenty of female refugees here.

Refugees are generally accepted from a refugee program, where Irish authorities interview, photograph and interview them. Ukrainian refugees exempt.

Asylum seekers are people fleeing something, they are looking for refugee status. In general, when people are fleeing, the men go first, as they are stronger and alone, with no one to hold them back. Once they are safe, they send for their families. This has been explained millions of times, people just don't want to hear it.

So again, what is your issue with men?

Any 'economic' migrant will not be granted asylum....that's the whole point of the asylum process, to investigate their claim. People from Albania are seeing something like a 95% refusal rate by immigration authorities.

I think what most are asking for are limits to immigration and more stringent regulation of immigration. If we don't have the social services to support the native population and immigrants already accepted then why do we continue to accept more? And then house them in villages of tents? It doesn't make much sense to me.

We can take a double ended approach to the problem, decrease the acceptance rate of immigrants and increase the provision of necessary social services.

It's plain to see that if we continue to grow the population at a rate faster than we can provide social services for the population then the general standard of living will decline. Or worse, more lawlessness like last week will ensue.

They don't need to be granted asylum just hang on long enough to secure residence status, we've seen multiple times previously people with Deportation orders stay here and eventually gain citizenship which is no government is then willing to either strip or deport for committing serious crimes,

They need to seriously get tough before it's too late

This poll/survey? -

Worth saying this again about the Govt commissioned poll/survey -

NGOs basically

Where did I say that I had an issue with men?

The majority of international protection applicants are single males, not just in Ireland but all over Europe. In fact the EU Agency for Asylum stated that male applicants last year accounted for 71% of asylum claims. This prompted the Belgian government to proclaim that they would no longer provide shelter for single men seeking asylum, arguing that families, women and children should be prioritised.

So again, where did I say that I had an issue with men?