Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Who are failing miserably. How many bogus asylum applicants have actually been rounded up and repatriated? The reality is that we have completely open borders and the word has gone round that their are easy ways to get into the Republic of Ireland, a member state of the EU and once in, very little chance that you'll be removed.

That is a good thing in my book. Human rights laws are there to protect the most vulnerable and isolated people in any society. Get rid of those laws - as the Brexiteers cross channel want to do - and you are heading down the slippery slope to authoritarianism (and it becomes only a matter of time before the rights of people born in the country are trampled on, never mind immigrants and refugees).

They are not just turning up. The government invited them in with the promise of accommodation and other benefits. To then dump them on the streets is pretty extreme abuse.

Gardai are already intercepting people at international airports trying to travel to Ireland without documentation (not sure why this hasn't been more widely reported):

had to laugh listening to " rest is politics" with rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell.Campbell said he was in dublin and was struck at how white every one was,

Obviously stayed around d4 to form that impression,

Obviously didn't tour around the North inner city parnell Street and Moore Street would tell a different story.

Wouldnt that discredit someone from claiming job seekers allowance?

I know there are different benefits for Ukranians, but at some point they would need to move to JA.

Exactly where there's a will there's a way. Like the pandemic, laws can be created at the drop of a hat.

CAB was created to tackle a new kind of crime etc.

There's just no political will to solve the problem currently.

What is it that's actually going on?

Why is it the policy of the government (not politicising this as it is supported by opposition parties also nearly every TD) to happily allow the Irish to emigrate and replace them with people arriving at Dublin airport without passports, unable to speak English, a small number with possible criminal records? It makes no sense.

Yes, it makes no sense at all. To me, it looks like it's a series of stupid, unconnected, individual policies/ideas that have combined into what has become the most perfect of 'perfect storms' and they have lost control of it - it's a runaway train now

Allowing O'Gorman to invite 10's of millions to come to Ireland which happened pre the UKR-RU war

Paying the highest welfare rates to UKR refugees of any country post the war

Allowing McEntee to remain as Justice minister as she utterly fails to control our borders

Having a massive wedge of cash to throw at each problem sooner than do what is needed to solve the issues (due to pure incompetence and/or the need to save face)

Mistakenly thinking they were playing to a majority liberal electorate

Greens threatening to take the ball home if they didn't get their way as SF were riding high in the polls

It's too early in the morn to try figure it out

Look on the benefits forum, you’ll see people query why they were deducted a weeks jsa payment because they couldn’t sign on due to Covid.

Others like pensioners querying why their pension is being reduced because they downsized and have money in the bank.

Replies to those queries are well “those are the rules”. Fair enough but are they being applied to our Ukraine refugees getting full social welfare who could have vast bank accounts back home?

Did social welfare look for repayment for the social welfare from the Sligo family who were found to have 375000 euro in the house

I have a terminally Ill family member who can't get enough carer hours. Worked 40 years as a nurse caring for people in nursing homes and hospitals.

And we have the government bending over backwards to accept people with no documents or from safe countries and proclaiming we are faced legal action for not looking after these people. Why the feck should we be looking after people breaking the rules by destroying forms or coming from safe countries.

Where's the legal action against the government for not getting our kids off hospital waiting lists or carer hours for our sick?

We need immigrants and need to help people from warzones but not people who are taking advantage who sit on their holes for years not learning the language.

I am so disgusted by our governments failed immigration policy and it is their fault reasonable people will end up in 5-10 years voting for blatant racist parties when they are been completely ignored.

Michael Fitzmaurice is quietly making strides setting up the rural party and you would hope he gets young energetic people for next years election ,pity Aontu are not a more mainstream party as they could gather some of the shinners vote

Any indication the the 'rural party' will take a strong line on immigration? My impression of Fitzmaurice is as a kind of grassroots-rural-pragmatic-progressive kind of guy, similar to say Marian Harkin. I don't see him naturally embracing the role of tub-thumping nativist.

I'm about half way through the 30min video and it's actually very good. His main bug bear is the hate speech legislation that is coming to Ireland and not unique to Ireland. He does mention immigration and why Irish people shouldn't have any level of shared shame with other former coloniser nations due to our past. We were not a colonial power.

Maths is clearly not Gary's strong point.

So basically it's people who didn't apply themselves in school causing all the mayhem

No, more likely come from wealthy backgrounds. Born with a silver spoon in their mouths so to speak.

"Oh wont someone please think of the children" types. When in actual fact couldn't give 2 shites about said children.