Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

And yet you cannot point out what was racist.

Has Harry or Meaghan made any statements about this book? Or the names?

Nothing so far- I’d say they’re sh1ten it

Wrong. Charles wrote to Meghan after the Oprah interview and she responded. You need to start getting the basic facts right.

I don't know how any of you find it a bit odd that the Royal family might have a bit of unconscious bias - after all, that is how they are considered a cut about everyone else (including white people). Their titles stem from the fact that they are better than everyone else including mixed race, black, and brown people. Thats why their subjects bow and curtesy to them. People think they are superior/better than everyone else based on their bloodline (an accident of birth). Nothing else.

My opinion is that the Royal Family were very worried about the reaction of the fairly racist British media more than anything else and that would explain the 'concern'. They were right to be concerned (Baby Archie depicted as a chimp leaving the hospital by no less than an BBC employee would support that they were right about that one).

I really don't get why you think Meghan and Harry are behind this book. Have you not noticed that they are well able to speak for themselves in their various interviews, docuseries and biographies? And they stand over what they say. Why would they need Scobie to do that in his book?

Just explain your logic to me on why you think they are behind this book and they are the ones to blame for naming Charles & Kate and not Piers Morgan?

No. She just never indulged in Nazi salutes.

I don’t see anyone here stating “the RF don’t have unconscious bias”- we all have an element of unconscious bias -we just don’t know it - that’s why it’s called “unconscious” 🤪

Its nothing to be ashamed about either - it’s about adapting our attitudes and behaviours over time as we become more consciously aware of our biases - nothing more sinister than that

Let's not forget that of the Royal Family, the only one who shows/speaks/exhibits what most people would call racist remarks and actions is..... Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex.

I bet he was a nightmare for the Army. He managed to insult a fair proportion of the global population, in one way or another. Something he could put on his CV

Nope. They didn't put on robes and burn crosses either.

Supports?

Interesting.

You stated this earlier.

hey I’m not going to get in the way of you reducing Meaghan's future earning power.

You do realise I don't know either of them, right?

I said she wrote to Charles. I left out who began the writing so please use some inference. There are many monarchies, there are also many hereditary systems based on birth and rank so what makes the British one any different? Nobody is forced to bow and curtsy. There is a class system in the UK. Part of the royal deal is that, instead of being wealthy land owners, they get privilege and status but it is transactional in so far as they are expected to spend their lives in service to and as representives of the public, to big up British interests. How do you even know there were concerns? That only ever came out of the mouth of Meghan and has never been formally acknowledged so take from that what you want. Maybe she might have People magazine or something print 49% of any letter from Charles to validate that. Give it some kind of solid foundation. Anything more than 50% is invading his privacy. 😉

You don't get why people think Harry and Meghan might be behind the book? Are you being deliberately disingenuous? Quick recap of Finding Freedom. H&M getting bad press. A sympathetic author is writing an unauthorised book. To cover up involvement they have an aide brief the author with extensive notes so they can covertly get their truth/version of events out into the public domain. You know all that. Scobie was on ITV yesterday and said when this came up in the trial he was hearing it for the first time like everybody else. Gaslighting. A pathetic attempt to explain away Sussex collaboration by proxy. So there is quite a precedent set there. Harry and Meghan fed information to Omid Scobie.

So my logic is that history doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes. Instead of an aide it was mutual friends. We're talking about contents of a letter exchange between Charles and Meghan in which two people are outed as having talked about their child. Amazing how he knew who the two names were. He isn't even in the royal rota. He said he didn't interview Meghan but said they had mutual friends who were very helpful in providing details and background. Do I really have to spell it out for you? I will anyway. Meghan told the mutual friend(s) the two names, the mutual friend(s) (not Meghan) told Omid, Meghan had no contact with Omid and is using the old we-have-to-be-able-to-deny-involvement stroke her husband had insisted on for Finding Freedom.

Omid, armed with a bombshell, wrote information from those sources (which originated from Meghan) into his book, the publisher reviewed it and took out the names after a mandatory legal review. The bombshell has been defused and without it the book will be just another tabloidesque waste of time for readers i.e. the only people who will read it would know most of the contents as it is. The Dutch translator, with an English version including the two names, includes the two names. Omid the gaslighter then says he never meant to name names (although he wrote them in!) says he wants to find out how that happened. Then the Italian translator, working from the English version and by stunning coincidence, also goes to print with the same two names. As all of this breaks in the news his set-to-flop book then hits the Amazon top 40. But yeah, it's Piers Morgan who is to blame. Lol.

The RF thrive off popularity - they need it to justify the grift, they are hardly going to go out and graft to earn it are they?

It's why they spend millions of the public money on hefty spin doctoring teams.

Republic?

Perish the thought.

It’s a two way street though - the British public get the pomp and ceremony and tradition that most right now still cherish and that also drives a massive supporting economy of millions of royal tourists to the shores every year spending their dollars euros and yen - it’s not as simple as “King spends public millions to make him look well “- there’s many in UK who can’t stand the monarchy but most range from tolerate to love.

Every leader in the world spends public money on making themselves look good- it’s not like the RF have a monopoly on that idea.

So the only reason to keep them pumped with 100s of millions is tourism.

Does Charles greet all the tourists personally?

Give a licence to Disney and give all the palaces and stately manors to the National Trust.

Quids in.

It's weird how Harry gets a pass for the Nazi thing, and his racist remarks, despite being an adult at the time and fully aware of the history. The queen was literally a child who was told to do it by her weird uncle and it was some 80+ years ago, before the horrors of the holocaust were even known, but it's brought up constantly whenever anyone questions h&Ms "truth".