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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,765 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Uber grifters...they put grifting into the stratosphere



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    I did not state it was from 2003 or 2007, another poster questioned that. However, I agreed that it was an older photo and I don't understand what you mean by conspiracy theory mode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    BTH, though it wouldn't surprise me, I just can't see Tubs posting an old photo with Friends to suggest a goodbye reunion before he heads across there over the water.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,417 ✭✭✭CH3OH


    Fair City cut from 4 nights a week to 3 to save a few bob


    RTE news : €10m cuts announced by RTÉ over 'financial challenges'


    http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/1130/1419432-rte-cuts-finances/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,104 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    The only reason people were supposing that it is an older photo is because of the ashtrays, which would date it pre 2003 (Ireland) or pre 2007 (UK). It’s nonsense to think that the photo is anything but recent.

    The conspiracy theory rubbish is alleging that he’d post an old photo and pretend that’s it’s a recent one - when there isn’t a shred of evidence to support it. The photo is just what it claims to be, and nothing more. Let’s just stick to facts, ok?



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    I wonder did Shane McGowan give his ol' mucker Tubs a call before he shuffled off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Basically they are going back to the start with Fair City: -


    • Fair City will reduce on air from four to three episodes a week from January 4 to allow for a pause in production in July and August. RTÉ will continue to produce four episodes per week but will air three.

    Those summer months are costing RTÉ, you now have a studio that will be empty in July and August. Huge questions going way back about the Summers in RTÉ. You will note this won't effect Mondo (the cheeky chappy) or Paul (the womanizing bastard).

    • RTÉ’s in-house Sunday evening summer factual programming will not be produced in 2024 

    A four week run for "The Summer Show" again summertime in RTÉ

    • RTÉ will not produce an in-house Saturday evening entertainment show in the Spring of 2024

    Trying to think of the show to be honest (The Money List?) honestly a realitly new programme, early evening saturday evening show .... what Ryantown?

    • Production of a third season of The Money List will be deferred until 2025 (a second season, produced in 2023 will air in 2024)  

    Oh! its so go it can wait until 2025!

    • The transmission of Young Offenders will be deferred until 2025  

    Again this goes against how important Drama is to the New Direction, will it air on BBC in 2024?

    • The budget for acquired programmes will be reduced in 2024

    By how much ? you could cut that budget in half and save 10 million

    • Additional savings will be delivered through production savings in News and Current Affairs and Sport

    Ah actually some hard work to figure out to deal with special events that they didn't know were going to happen like, The Local Elections and the Euros "Special Events" my arse.

    Full of shite full of shite


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,692 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    Am I reading that wrong or are they just going to destroy what RTE should be doing (FC excluded) instead of cutting the fat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Exactly as they have done before, Carry on Director General


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭RunningFlyer


    "Despite these cuts, Mr Lynch said RTÉ's overall running costs will rise in 2024 due to a number of special events - including the Olympic Games, the European Football Championships, local and European elections, as well as due to other inflationary pressures."

    From


    Bailout sorted. Crisis over for another year. Carry on everybody 🤦‍♂️



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    So will the fair city actors take a.cut in salary?

    Tbh it all seems fine on paper but being rte I feel nothing will actually change.

    Whatever tax payers money they hand them will be squandered as usual.

    Also how many staff will be heading to the.olympics soccer etc next year.

    Could someone not sit in front of a few screens in d4 and just whitter on endlessly😁 would we actually notice any difference🥴😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Main Characters will not because they are already contracted for a 31 week, as we found out through the LRC hearings relating to SCOPE. This goes back to the days when an RTÉ Soap took the summer of the air. This saving is in production cost in the main and a reduction in the number of actors and characters.

    Olympics and Soccer does not increase any thing in RTÉ nor do the Local and European Elections, RTÉ for the last 15 year or so have used these "Special events" to show how they go out of their way to bring content to the license fee payer, and if they didn't have them they would save so much money... only these are high viewer events and advertisers like them, RTÉ like in 2016 could come to a deal with VMTV or even TG4 to take some of these sports. They won't because it would destroy RTÉ2 which I have mention before without sport RTÉ2 has very few viewers.

    This is not a plan, this is not reform, this is a .... NOTHING BURGER.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    What did I post?

    A photo and a link.

    I commented on the quality of the pints.

    A question was raised about the photo from another poster pertaining to the age of the photo which I was not aware of at the time of posting. I responded and pointed out to the poster that it was well spotted and made my own comments about the photo. I did not suggest anything to support some "conspiracy theory" regarding whether Ryan Tubridy actually had a few sociables last week, last year or in the last decade or where he decided to have them. This "conspiracy" has been implied by you and if anyone needs to stick to the facts, it is also you.

    I think I have provided enough clarity on this and I do not need to explain myself any further.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭Frank Grimes


    Just on the pub photo. Shay Byrne mentioned on Rising Time that he'd met with Tubridy, Marty Whelan and some other guy whose name escapes me for pints yesterday or the day before, and made some joke about Whelan asking what wines they had in the pub. I think we can take it that the photo is recent, unless...🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    God damn you Ryan, fair City cut back to 3 nights a week.

    Lmfao



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,862 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    I have managed to find the original photo.

    Makes more sense now.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    You'd wonder what the Fair City Photographer will be doing in July and August. And just think about that someone in RTÉ wasn't aware of the idea that FC could be scaled back, do you really think the Bridgie De Coursy didn't have a meeting or 2 with Bakhurst on changes to fair city, but she still went out to bat for a friend!


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,637 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Is Kevin just taking the axe to things a vocal minority feel needs axing so he looks tough or is he actually doing due diligence?

    I wouldn't watch Fair City (any soap) if you had my family held hostage, but is there a commercial or production value to it? e.g. is it used to train the next batch of camera people, engineers, sound tech, etc? I am only aware of maybe one or two actors who came out of it and went on to further their careers in any meaningful sense.

    If it isn't then it needs to go full stop and something produced by RTE that adds value.

    Extra bonus if it were watchable too.

    I think these decades long soaps have had there day anyway and if they disappeared in the morning few would really care.

    I would have always been aware through the media of a huge story developing in one of the English ones which led to half these islands watching, haven't heard anything like in some years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think the hey-day of the soap is definitely gone, but they are still watched by some. The 2000s caused a flood of British soaps going out 5 nights a week, leading to plenty disappearing by 2010, Brookside, Family Affair, The Bill, Crossroads and more recently BBC have axed both Doctors and Holby City.

    I think Kevin is doing much as what Dee did and that is just to knock everything down without any real consideration.

    There is no reform in these cuts. If anyone can explain to me why you'd choose July and August as the breaking point rather than November and December, please let me know, with Production returning in Feb 2025.

    Breaking in July and August makes little sense, while we do have wet weather all year round, July and August surely are better for filming rather than November and December.

    I would love to see the currently filming schedule of Fair City.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭artvanderlay


    I staggered when I heard and had to steady myself by leaning on an elderly woman. Otherwise I would have buckled at this devastating news.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Good example here of how bad he was at interviewing the bigger names. a total bag of nerves. Sutherland tells an anecdote about Shane McGowan and Tubridy can't sit still nor keep his mouth shut, just a series of mini-interruptions.

    Just glad he's gone. His 'tribute' to McGowan had he been on the LLS would have been dire. Probably couldn't find two people so far removed from each other in this country.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,059 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Tubs tried to butt in around 10 times!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    As much as I dislike him as an interviewer that wasn't terrible.

    He mostly stayed out of it until the end and it was time to start wrapping up the anecdote anyway.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I listen to Q102, when I'm at home, easy listening, background music. Apparently Tubridy was interviewed on the Breakfast show recently. I happened to hear a clip replayed this morning.

    Everything is wonderful and the date he starts in January is so meaningful because bla bla bla. He and one of the presenters agreed that things happen for a reason. All I could think was, yes, they do.

    The reason in his case, having had one of the softest and most highly paid jobs in Ireland and managing to lose it - GREED GREED GREED. That's the reason.

    I can't help thinking that he probably looked down in the likes of Q102 in the past. He was wishing everyone happy Christmas and so forth and said 'your listeners, oh no actually our listeners'.

    I doubt he ever thought this day would come tbh. Greed is a truly terrible thing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭supereurope


    It's great though, isn't it? The public were told constantly Ryan was a megastar who had to be given shedloads of money to stop him leaving for the BBC or C4 or CNN, and now here he is on a regional Irish station and a UK station that hardly anyone listens to over there. More fool RTÉ for not calling his bluff earlier. Ryan was never a megastar, he was just well connected.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,615 ✭✭✭Damien360


    The bigger picture needs to be looked at also. There are contractors on wages that are way out of kilter with the competition and now it has been shown that the UK is quite simply not interested. Local to the island is what matters.

    I would also look at newsreaders on silly money to read stuff out loud.

    Personalities like Darcy, Joe etc are the very obvious ones. Who would hire Joe outside of Ireland. Who in Ireland could afford him. RTE have been handed a golden opportunity to slash costs but they won't do it. The begging bowel will be out again and again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Ray Darcy, if his contract was not renewed I think would hang up his broadcasters earphones and just retire. His diction wold be good enough for a small UK radio station but I don't see him leaving Ireland. Living on a diet of porridge and sour dough bread, he doesn't have any huge outgoings.

    The only thing Tubridy has in his favour is his diction and accent can work in the UK,

    Joe Duffy however is the special case. No-one in the UK would be able to understand him. He has got zero pull outside of RTE. Even the likes of Galway Bay Fm would not want him because he's too Dublin centric in his views. I really hope Kevin Backurst has some balls when it comes to contract renewal time, and heavily reduces Joe's fee. 350k a year would a large amount for a talented broadcaster working prime TV on a national station. 350k for 90 minutes a day on a radio station that due to its timing has got pretty much a guaranteed listenership is genuinely obscene. He's not a smart man, but he surely knows that him doing Liveline is the only thing he can do. So offering him a reduced contract of 100k should be cause for champagne in Duffy Towers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    The problem you have in RTE is it's a run like a bog standard Irish state body with all the ineptitude, waste and cronyism that that entails, but with the glitzy caché of a big media operation which means they think they need to be renumerated in a corresponding fashion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭supereurope


    Yes, I'm not sure how many RTÉ personalities can now say (via Noel Kelly) "If you don't pay me megabucks, I'll have signed a contract to host a show on BBC1 by the end of the week." If RTÉ continues to fall for it, then they really are a bunch of fools (but worryingly, fools with other people's money at their disposal.)

    I'm even not sure where the "Pay me loads or I'll go the BBC" negotiation argument comes from... the UK has more than enough talented people to fill media roles, so why would the BBC need to look across the water to an Irish presenter? The Irish who have made it big in UK broadcasting are those who went over while they were still young and at the start of their careers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I suppose it comes from Wogan who was a genuinely fantastic broadcaster. And then Graham Norton, a very different but undeniably talented broadcaster.

    Plus a few other Irish personalities who have gone to the UK and done well for themselves. Dara O'Briain, Dylan Moran, Ed Byrne, to name but a few.

    As a result practically anyone in RTE thinks "well if they can do it anyone can" - totally ignoring that it took talent, luck and a lot of hard work for all of them. Three things alot of irish "stars" are not predisposed to.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    I honestly think that whole argument about "Pay me more or I'm off to the BBC" is an anachronistic red herring. I think it was a reality in the past when people like Gay Byrne did flirt with US networks in his heyday but in recent years it was nothing more than an excuse for those within the golden circle to pay themselves higher salaries than the market actually dictated.

    I don't believe for a second that Dee Forbes ever considered the likes of Ryan Tubridy flying the nest for UK radio to be a possibility. She wasn't a fool. She was a cynic with a blank chequebook. Far easier to just give the people already in the job whatever they wanted rather than actually do your job and secure the best person for the best price possible to the licence payer. As I said in a previous post, it's the Irish state body mindset. Performance, metrics, capability doesn't come into it. It's someone else's money, books don't need to be balanced. Don't rock the boat. Collect huge pension and golden handshake on your way out the door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,765 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Unfortunately what you describe has been going for at least 40 years.

    Plenty more other than Tubridy involved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭Karppi


    Shame that Dee has a bout of (what a poster magnificently said some while ago now!) "Long Coward"

    Whatever happened to accountability and responsibility?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    My Parents can't understand a word of Tubriby, they actually switch the radio off, his diction is appalling, running words into words and massive amounts of mumbling.

    I imagine Mike Murphy getting pissed off at Gay Byrne in the 1980s.

    I imagine Mike in a office with the Heads of RTÉ back in the early 80s, smoking a cigarette and drinking a whiskey, saying that they need to starting paying more money or else, and the then DG taking a sip of Cognac telling "My dear Mike, the top broadcaster in RTÉ isn't getting what you are looking for, you expect us to pay big money to you?"

    Then imagine Mike waiting along a corridor in RTÉ and approaching Gay "Look, Byrne we could be getting paid more, ask them for at least €500,000, so that I can get some money".

    As I have said before Derek Davis said he was very well paid during his time on LIVE AT 3.

    There is no change with any part of RTÉ. It is all about self preservation, **** the audience and the licence fee payer.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,765 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    That’s exactly what happened ….with ‘relativity’ down the line, as was reported.

    Nice person called Fred O’Donovan was the head honcho at the time.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Living on a diet of porridge and sour dough bread, he doesn't have any huge outgoings.

    I can't stop laughing 😂





  • He once stated that on his porridge diet that he has very healthy outgoings, so to speak 🤣🤣





  • Tubridy has a very limited range of vocabulary and phraseology which he considers “cool”. Bonkers, delicious, the latter being applied to anything that wasn’t remotely edible, even in the strangest of imaginations, like a book or a sunset. Yes, most presenters have go-to phrases, Gaybo had “the country is banjaxed”, but it was applicable to many national scenarios that people spoke about in the 80s etc. Ryan pulled all his out of a Willy Wonka book, and he doesn’t stay off a very low level serving of simplistic fantasy adjectives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭jippo nolan


    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    I’d say he’s feeling the pressure of reality now.

    10am to 1pm five days a week is a lot of airtime.

    We know he doesn’t have the talent to do it and he’s been lying to himself all these years. I wonder if deep down he knows it too ?

    I hope he doesn’t get away with any Irish ‘diddly dee’ BS. Surely nobody would tolerate that level of cringe or would the English lap that up ? Because that’s all he’s has to sell.

    I think there is still time for him to find a reason not to start the job.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,692 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    You mean some crap like he loves Ireland too much to leave it



  • Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭supereurope


    I'd say it's fairly unlikely. By being in London, he can bang on endlessly about all the amazing bookshops over there, plus he and his media pals can tell (and print) tales about how amazingly he's doing over there - and hope no one bothers to check the ratings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    I remember when LFC (Liverpool football club) fans were concerned about their club they, as a very large group, made contact with the bank (I think it was RBS) to threaten a product boycott if they provided further funding for the then owners of LFC. It worked.

    I never understood other large groups not taking this type of coordinated action. It’s easier now than ever before, via social media, to coordinate such action.

    So could we, and all the people from Ireland, target the advertisers of Virgin radio in an effort to get our money back from Ryan Turbridy ?

    A very simple - ‘we won’t listen and will boycott your products until Turbridy pays back the money he owes’.



  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    Putting LFC and Tubridy in the same league is over inflating one side by a huge margin I think !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    To be honest, I think even if he had a very tranquil, pedestrian show on BBC4 of a Sunday evening with a mainly over 60's audience, he couldn't get by on a diet of Irish "diddly dee" - It's 2023. The UK is a very different place to Terry Wogan's heyday. I don't think that constituency really exists anymore....... ie red trouser wearing English middleclass who just love a charming Irish lilt on the wireless to remind them of rugged coastlines and pints of Guinness........! I sincerely doubt anyone listening to Virgin UK at 10 am of a morning after Chris Evans is going to buy that stuff.

    That's why the move is intriguing to me. I don't know what they think they are getting with Tubridy. From the DLB's perspective, it's almost a puzzler too. He certainly doesn't want to move to London. If he had any ambition or desire in that regard he would have made this move 15 years ago instead of taking over the LLS to turn it into a weekly wake. He would much rather be at home in Dublin and safe in the bosom of RTE. So all I can see is he's A) making a small few quid by his standards but paying the bills and b) looking to the disinterested spectator in Ireland like he's made a success of himself outside Ireland. This will ultimately keep his caché high enough to engineer a return to RTE in a couple of years time, when he hopes this will all be forgotten. Would anyone blink an eye now if Jonathan Ross returned to the BBC? Of course not. Sachsgate is ancient history. Most people would barely remember it. That's the long game Tubs is playing I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    There’s a decent sized population in Ireland that would rather have the money than leaving it with Turbridy.

    A bombardment of correspondence with Virgin advertisers would definitely have an impact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,615 ✭✭✭Damien360


    He is gone. Leave him off. Just wait a few short years and RTE will prise him back from the UK for a snip at €500k per year complete with a picture of him pointing at some random person (aka another RTE celebrity). Then you can start your boycott.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,842 ✭✭✭Allinall


    You might get four or five people to sign up.

    Don’t think Virgin will be shaking in their boots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Can already see the headlines.....

    BONKERS: UK BROADCASTING LEGEND AND ALL ROUND RADIO GOD RYAN TUBRIDY SET TO COME HOME TO SIGN NEW CONTRACT WITH RTE



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx




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