What is being done to address the M50 problem?

Buses will change nothing.

Like the cities you quoted, we need an underground system or go home.

I meant 3 standard sizes: double decker, single decker, mini bus. Smaller buses can serve less used routes until demand is such that bigger buses are required. Also, they connect to other routes. There should be very little excuses to get in a car.

And lots more staff to drive lots more buses on lots more routes.

If we can't find or train the staff to drive buses then stop pretending we are a first world economy and admit we are a tax haven that only does short term planning.

Once we figure out how to do buses we can move onto more advanced things.

Being part of the EC we can ask our fellow EU countries how to do public transport, instead of re inventing the wheel and wasting a load of time and money.

Trains are to slow here also and one train stops the network stops. Other week a train broke down near Sandymount and stopped both lines as driver could check around the train. Trains out of heuston just crawling along. Plenty of padding on timetable.

It has taken to long to move on that not everyone works in the city that get on a bus.

It is a pity that the Brits didn't leave one behind, but its an even bigger pity that we just can't seem to build them ourselves.

But the L25 runs from Dundrum. So someone from Tallaght has to get to Dundrum first to get an L25.

I put in my location in Tallaght to IADT into TFI's planner and it says journey time between 1hr 42 minutes and 2 hrs 3 minutes by bus and that's leaving at 1:45pm on a Sunday!

It also IS three buses. The 27, the S8 and the 46A. So there is some truth to the claims made.

I don't know, it all seems like its way too overly complicated to me, and I wouldn't blame anyone for throwing up the arms and saying "feck this, I'm getting my driving licence!"

Doing that journey by buses every day would suck the life out of you, especially in the Winter.

That's all I'm saying.

Maybe we should upgrade the entire M50 to 3 lanes in each direction as opposed to part of it.

The powers that be seem to think in terms of single lines rather than a metro. We're being told that a metro system is coming soon, when in reality all that's coming is a single line from Swords to the inner city. Will have little or no impact on the travel times for 90+% of Dublin residents.

We should be building a metro system with multiple lines serving most suburbs. This needs to be done as a priority. Multiple lines in the system need to be in simultaneous construction. Might take 20 years to fully complete, but we've been waiting longer for most infrastructure projects....

The James recommendation was from the members of the Dolphin committee, national and international experts on hospital management, planning, construction - but sure all the lads on Boards know better, right?

The best solution to the traffic issue is to have more people working from home - maybe they don't do it all the time, but when they go to the office, why does it have to be for 9 am and why leave between 4 and 5?

Schools also contribute a lot to traffic. People often don't send their children to the nearest school. Naturally people want the best for their children. This is an education system problem contributing to a transport problem - it just goes to show how complex the issue is.

Currently it is very attractive to many businesses to be close to the M50 as they have access to all routes for their goods, but they also attract employees. An outer ring road would similarly attract businesses.

Well said.

they didn’t want cars / private transport on the roads, but they have provided next to nothing in extra and better public transport…..in order that people may choose different options…

Maybe make just the peak commuter time buses free. Most of the unwashed aren't up that hour so the chances of running into gowls is reduced.

Yeah for lots of people there's no choice.

I guess the goal is to entice the people that have a choice onto public transport and also to improve PT so much that it's a choice for more people.

I'm fine for the "unwashed" to take PT.

I don't see the harm in trialling free buses one day a week or a peak times on some days.

I really don't think people will be taking unnecessary trips.

Like, you either have to go somewhere or you don't. You're not just going to hop on a bus for the fun of it.

It might attract cyclists more maybe.

My train is about 30 mins. The car is anything up to 90 mins. There really is no comparison.

The quickest way to improve your own transport options is to move (in the city or county) where better options already exist.

Because it's obvious some areas/routes have far better links than others. They are getting priority over other areas.

Traffic around IADT is brutal. I had the misfortune if having to do a short course there via work, and it was ridiculous in a car from D15.

At a certain point you have to say some routes are not viable as a long term commute. Personally I have refused jobs and courses in locations that are difficult to get to. That's a life lesson. As is long distance commuting.

You can make some routes viable thinking out of the box. Get a moped, get a folding bike. Buy a cheap car. Go multi modal.

Not saying You’re wrong but what makes You say the drop of traffic in Dublin is massive? The North Quays are nearly always jammed & please don’t even mention Pearse Street from approximately 15h30 onwards.

By that logic we should place ALL national infrastructure projects in D8