Gript-A source of misinformation. **Read OP before posting**

For starters you called me out in your post, I didn't come looking for you. I didn't claim you said anything about the riots, I used that situation as an example of where the far right are invoked as the cause of a negative situation.

Your belief in relation to this is that the far right in Ireland orgainsed the riots then? Or did I misinterpret that?

There hasn't been any evidence to support that position beyond some far right agitators were active online in the wake of the stabbing and a small number of them protested the same and the morons streaming the riots in a giddy fervor.

The take away from the idea that the far right orgainsed the riots is that they had planned to organise the riots and every element therein, which isn't accurate.

The far right will always take advantage of those type of situations, but the notion that the people torching Garda cars and busses were all card carrying fascists isn't based in reality.

The things that are being attributed to the far right aren't somehow magically existing within legal loop holes. What they are being accussed of is already illegal. The far right isn't dodging through deficiencies in our legal system, so if the far right are orgainsing these things they should be prosecuted for the same.

As for your study. Thanks for linking to it but beyond taking their word for things we're still none the wiser as to who exactly is responsible for all this awful fascism.

I'd also be slightly wary of ISD and some of the statements they have made about other issues (happily pouring petrol on the fire of the George Nchenko case for example). The continued existence of such a body depends on there being a bogey man to fight against.

Don't get me wrong, the far right exists in Ireland, we can observe this in the political sphere, but the scaremongering about them cannot be substantiated.

Also, there's no need to be snarky, we can disagree without declaring our emnity.

That's your assumptions though. There's no evidence that the claims of far right organising are all saying all the rioters and looters were far right.

RTE got caught using a tweet (probably) without verifying it. RTE has history on doing this and it caused a major problem for the broadcaster in 2011 that resulted in a number of enquiries, contracts not being renewed, a show cancellation and an out of court settlement. The stuff about "misinformation" is spin to distract from RTE's embarrrassment. The Irish legacy media tends to be rather polite to each other as journalists tend to move around between publications and news organisations.

Gript, according to themselves, tried to confirm an identification with a Garda source and Justice source. This was something completely different.

As for journalists and "social commentators", it is hard not to laugh at the Irish Times running that AI generated piece on fake tan complete with an AI generated image. What's even funnier is that Microsoft tested out an AI chatbot on Twitter a few years ago and after a few hours, it was turned into a Far Right AI bot responding about all the usual Far Right topics. It quickly deactivated it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(chatbot)

That cited study seems like rather basic social network analysis and sentiment analysis.

Regards...jmcc

Ah OK. The usual schtick of trying to downplay and deflect far right involvement from the whole situation.

It's not about discrediting though. It's about pointing out this is the usual thing that happens round here; deflection, denial and downplaying.

It is only ever about discrediting.

The far right played a part in the riots , but in reality that part was a lot smaller and less significant than reported.

Saying that doesn't equate to deflecting, denial or downplaying. It's just an honest evaluation of the facts minus the spin.

They are outside proposed DP centres, they are ' citizen journalists ' reporting on immigrants into the country, they are taking videos of Gardai trying to do their jobs, they are online, encouraging people to commit crimes ( while never actually committing crimes themselves)

They are a cross between Pinochet, mussolini and Freddie Kruger on steroids. Be afraid very afraid. They are everywhere well that's what the main stream media crowd would tell you anyway and it's actually hard to believe the amount on here who believe them. The truth is the real far right in Ireland is a tiny cohort of idiots with an IQ in single figures who wouldn't organise a piss up . The people who believe this crowd were able to organise a riot are the same crowd who think our minister for justice is competent. We all know that's the truth but a lot in Ireland with hidden agendas are using the boogie man of the far right as the deflector for all the issues in society. It's great for the government to push this hard right bullshit as it reflects from their many failures. If you question immigration, gender or climate issues you are immediately a member of that far right group. The most worrying thing I see in the last few years is not the far right but the centerists wanting to stop any debate or open discussion on any issue of national importance.

Justin Barrett only gained a national media profile in the first place because Irish media wanted to make opposition to the Nice Treaty look bad.

"Hey look! This guy is against the Nice Treaty and is a fascist looper. So you have to vote for the Nice Treaty!"

Oh wow, well if this guy is against x,y,z then I guess I'd better support x,y,z.

Nobody said the far right were responsible for ALL the crimes carried out on the riots , that's a bit silly .

Just for incitement to riot and encouraging " kill the immigrants " theme , that's all . /s

I agree(life is to a degree a class of an illusion/made up picture for the best of us,I feel).

It is the hangers on ,I had in mind

Do they partially buy into the nonsense or are they completely cynical in using the deluded for a separate agenda?

A lot of the opinion here is that the far right isn't a problem here in Ireland and that is expressed repeatedly through denial, deflection and downplaying. The pushback against the denial, deflection and downplaying is because it really just isn't true at all to claim the Far right are not a problem in Ireland as many do.

So if the far right wasn't responsible for burning down a refugee camp on sandwich Street, burning down the proposed refugee accommodation in Ballybrack and fir8ng bombing the hotel housing refugees in town during the riots then whonwas responsible?