"Green" policies are destroying this country

In that table, per capita, China emits less than the the US and the EU. Of course one of the largest countries (by land area and population) will emit more CO2! Plus, it's unfair to blame China for all the pollutants, when the factories that pump out all this carbon are owned by the US and the EU. The reason they emit less now is because they exported all their manufacturing overseas because it was cheaper than paying their workers a living wage to stop them from striking.

Of course it's worth remembering that China is run by the gangster CCCP.

Your average citizen (inmate) has zero say in how the country is run.

That is true. You can't paint them all with the one brush. I am looking at local eNGOs, getting hold of their accounts takes 18 to 24 months. eNGOs are a cottage industry in this country, that revolve around funding from the Irish taxpayer (IEN), EU and private bundlers such as the European Climate Foundation (ECF). There is a tiered structure in place that dictates industry marketing. On the top tier you will find the multinationals like Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth, Oxfam, Climate Action Network, & 350.org. These organizations provide much of the material for the mid-tier level NGOs such as An Taisce, Christian charities (e.g. Trocaire, Christian Aid) and the Irish franchise of Friends of the Earth. The bottom tier are typically facebook groups, local projects, students, Universities (raise their profile types and grants for research), those that offer sustainability training courses and law-fare groups like Friends of the Irish environment. It's at this layer you will find much of the duplication.

Here is an example of bottom tier grassroots, notice in this example the link to 350.org. That particular link in the facebook page is now 404. During the Thunberg campaign in 2019, this organisation was very active soliciting funds. In fact I have noticed when trawling around through the bottom tier, there are quite a few of these grassroots front pages all with Donate Now, whose business model seems to be to get you to sign up to email or newsletter subscriptions from the top tier eNGOs, the newsletter is used to try convert you into a paying customer. i.e. Donate Now. I would like to know what their conversion rate for paying customers is.

Obviously there is a constant drive to raise funds.

Running an office and paying staff puts a strain on finances.

Core funding is a difficulty for the smaller groups.

Most of the funding is project related IE. An Taisce Green Schools.

From a Government point of view reducing duplication and getting value for taxpayers money should be a priority.

I'm not familiar with the Donate Now model so I don't know what the conversion rate is.

Our local school is a green school. And from what I can see it means no bins and children bring their rubbish home

There are various YouTube videos that show cumilative CO2 emissions over time, and one common theme is how China in circa 30 years has gone from almost nowhere to coming close to matching what the US pumped out in 170 years.

Some sense at the COP28. You may not agree with his message but he's not wrong.

At least China, India and Japan have been somewhat honest in that they made it clear that for the sake of their economies they were going to keep using coal.

Unlike the green motherland, Germany, they weren`t preaching to the rest of the world as to how everybody should follow their example to then go full circle on coal when their economy was under threat. Even adding to the hypocrisy of green concerns being emissions by shutting down the last of their nuclear plants while doing it.

Funny that you talk about EU as a whole when it is a bunch of countries with very different approach to the topic at hand. Why exactly we have to go on a crazy ride when some EU members like Germany and Poland are opening more coal burning plants?

The self-styled NGO withdrawing planning appeals for cash (rte.ie)

Environmental NGOs (eNGO) making up dubious claims about developments in order to get a payout. We've a shortage of housing laced with affordability issues and these eNGOs are stymieing development and increasing prices. What a wonderful country we live in - eh?

Unbelievable and so cynical stuff really but not really surprising which is why people will start to ignore the pleadings of these ever increasing number of eNGOs. In reality for many its all about devising ways of screwing money from the gullible public for their own largesse.

TBH are these guys any better than the so called scumbags that ran riot in Dublin recently? Of course there is a long history in this country of treating white collar scumbags in a far more leniant fashion.

In fairness no need to reinvemt the wheel here. Thers's a tried and trusted model to follow a la the charities who have developed into sophisticated money raising machines adept at using every opportunity to soak cash from donors. More is never enough, you donate for a good cause and next you're pushed to sign up to a DD so you can follow how your few bob is improving the life of some random person in the some far flung location. However, now you're in their system you'll be bombarded for ever more with email and letters looking for more and more cynically lashing on images of poor kids etc to maximise the possibility of repeat donations from a captive audience. How could any decent person say no?

No you see emissions based taxes, levies are just cycical ways to screw the taxpayers on the double while brainwashing them into thinking there is no other way to stop them boiling alive. The good auld polluter pays principle should really be renamed the polluter pays many times over principle😂

You are correct but they are IMO a pertinent example of how, as the profileration of NGOs increases, this muddying of the waters makes it more difficult to identify the wood from the trees resulting in a when in doubt ignore response.

Thanks for that but surely the pertinent point is that they are not ENGOs at all and therefore not part of any proliferation.

In the fashion business they would be regarded as counterfeit goods.

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