Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

I seem to recall them having a big party for the dozen or so Israelis who gang raped that British girl in Cyprus back a few years ago. She was forced to retract her statement, they were released and as soon as they got back videoed themselves on social media calling her a British slut and whore etc.

Did you not hear that Israel are making great efforts to make sure that the Combatant:Civilian death ratio is as high as possible so that the number of dead civilians is kept to an absolute minimum .................. by categorizing all the dead toddlers as enemy combatants.

Considering that Israel is the worlds only Jewish state, and that it houses a plurality of the worlds Jewish people, and that they're surrounded by people who want to drive the Jews into the sea ... yes, Anti-Zionism is at least a fellow traveller of Anti-Semitism.

We know why people of the Jewish religion were deemed worthy of having their own dedicated state. That was a consideration that should never have happened, Jews should have been welcomed, and made to feel welcome in all countries after WW2. Their actions since the foundation of the state have shown the mistake it was to grant them a country through taking land from other people.

And here we are, we've seen it everywhere, the media, the UN, the Whitehouse, the EU and so on and so on, their actions in carrying out a genocide cannot be criticised for what they are because of this magic card that they have manipulated so that they are absolved of criticism.

This will ultimately harm jewish people when the conflict in Gaza is no longer front page news and someone puts a microphone in front of Kanye West again or Elon Musk forgets what he promised Nethanyahu last week and tweets candidly once again. The next time there are tiki torch marches in Charlottsville, this will be a stick used to beat Jewish people with. Except it will be some guy who is a teacher in Brooklyn or a guy going to a gym in texas who will feel it first. Not those who want to obliterate the people of Gaza as fervently as Nazi's wanted to remove Jews from Europe.

Or a guy who owns a restaurant in Philadelphia?

Except it's not white supremacists targeting his restaurant is it? I'd imagine this mob would call themselves "anti zionist" and not "anti semitic" but their actions show otherwise. Having said that, no I don't think anti Zionism should be illegal, but you'd have to be extremely naive not to realize that a lot of people who hate Jews are hiding behind that label. Targeting Jewish owned businesses like this is reminiscent of 1930s Germany fgs

Should travelers be given a state of their own?

Native American Indians?

Inuits?

Aborigines?

If the answer is no, why then should those of the Jewish ethnicity?

All that aside, substitute the word 'religion' with the word 'ethnicity' from the part of my post you quoted and the point still stands.

Why should e.g. American Jews be more entitled to an additional "state of their own" as compared to Irish Americans?

Why don't we allow tens of thousands of Yanks with vague family memories and stories of great-great-great-great-great grandparents escaping the famine to come here and settle and seize property owned by immigrants who are only here 25 years?

There could be a Yank with Jewish and Irish ancestry. If you are happy for him to leave NY to go and seize a house and land in the West Bank which has been freshly dispossessed from the Palestinian family who owned it for countless generations, why can't he come to Blanchardstown and seize a foreigners house instead? Why do you consider him entitled to do one and not the other? Suppose the house in Blanchardstown is owned by a Palestinian - does that change your answer?

And people on here cheerlead this.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

What does a random Jewish restaurant owner in the US have to do with the actions of the Israeli government exactly ? How does screaming abuse through a window thousands of miles away have any impact on their policies?

Cool, a Strawman.

Haven't seen one of those in about 6 minutes.

Nobody is suggesting that. They should behave in an acceptable manner to their neighbors, they should refrain from all illegal settlements, they should show interest in promoting a two state solution, they should stop asking like a spoiled kid at the UN and they should immediately call a full and unconditional ceasefire.

Well if not then what was the point of going on about how Jews shouldn't have been given their own state? They were, it happened and they are there now so you'll just have to accept it I guess.