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Second Captains Part II

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,102 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Really? Weird comment, I remember he said Muhammad Ali fought there and that would be a reason…which seemed a bit of a stretch for a reason.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭atilladehun


    Financially it seems better to do it in the small specialised venue for the same profit in the one off case.

    I suppose the draw of Croke Park is that it will hopefully create future markets that will make the extra hassle for the same profit worthwhile.

    Culturally it puts Katie Taylor in a unique position in Irish sporting history.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Off the wall stuff about Taylor fighting in Croker.

    It's a one off event.

    Even the pedestrian barrier rental (erect and take down) for 1 night would make make ones eye's water.

    One offs are way too expensive for commercially driven enterprises for Croker.

    I'm surprised SC didn't even do a cursory glance at the maths of the notion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,714 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Crap, I thought Friday night was doors 7:30 show 8:30-ish but no it's doors 6:30 show 7:30 sharp.

    Very early for getting there after work and the Stadium isn't great for public transport either.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    It’s turning, it’s turning blood



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  • Registered Users Posts: 360 ✭✭Tucker.Tim


    Ken really struggles to admit when he’s wrong. Kenny and now Onana for De Gea.

    The reality is Onana has been calamitous and United would have been better off sticking with De Gea this season and seeing if the Turkish lad they picked up to back-up Onana was up to anything when he settled in. In a team that’s in so little control of games there’s no question that De Gea is a better fit when you’re letting a comical number of shots fly at the goal. The obsession with constantly playing out from the back seems to have only made United’s ill-fitting defence even less coherent.

    Between Antony, Casemiro, Mount and Onana, Ten Hag has wasted a prodigious amount of money on turkeys in 12 months even by United standards.



  • Registered Users Posts: 31,647 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Much like the way some people keep shïteing on about Mick when talking about Kenny, De Gea is demonstrably not the solution either. The solution is a keeper that's better than both. De Gea absolutely needed to be upgraded upon, they just choose badly. There's always a strange desire in some quarters to look back instead of looking forward, which is particularly mad when 'back' in many cases wasn't good enough either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,714 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,578 ✭✭✭bren2001


    I dont think many would agree that keeping DDG was the right move. Mega wages for someone who doesn't suit ETHs style, letting him go was the right decision. I agree with Ken on that.

    Onana may or may not end up being the right keeper for United. It's half a season, the jury is still out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 363 ✭✭Shank Williams


    Gaa illuminati fixed it for that limerick hurler today



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  • Registered Users Posts: 34,714 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The show was a "good player, but not a great player". Was hoping Sam could give us a tune at the end, does he have a good singing voice? 😀

    Auditorium - just about OK. Lots of people had a hard time finding their seats though and getting phone torches out in the almost non-existent house lighting to try to find the little labels. Tiering was a low angle so initially it seemed I would have a great view of the back of a tall guy's head, but it turned out he was in the wrong seat and was replaced by a shortarse...

    Bar - staff did their best but it was chaos, a lot of punters went home thirsty with money in their pockets they'd rather have spent. You'd think a venue would see the revenue potential lost here. The space available was just about adequate but there was zero organization.

    Toilets - disaster. Well, my wife thought it was great as there seemed to be only about five females there 😁 but ffs the gents was inadequate for a crowd of 200 never mind 2000.

    I know the Stadium is a historic venue etc etc. but it's totally inadequate by modern standards. Thin Lizzy, Horslips, Led Zeppelin, Rory Gallagher, etc. etc. only played there in the 1970s because Dublin was completely shít for venues and this was a well justified complaint even into the early 00s long after these acts finished.

    Even a well managed old venue like the Olympia is, today, far better for getting in/out and accessing toilets and bars. Really the best thing that can be done with the National Stadium is knock it flat and start again.

    Post edited by Hotblack Desiato on

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,578 ✭✭✭bren2001


    I hope they never go back there. I paid €40+ to stare at the back of Eoins head in a very uncomfortable seat.

    The bar and toilets were a joke.

    Big Sam never really got the crowd inside. Hard to see that podcast ever going out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,714 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    There was some booing at one point from a few which seemed completely arsey. But yeah it's a venue I'll make sure to avoid from now on no matter who or what is there

    Didn't exactly help that to get there we took bus - Luas - another Luas - another bus. At least all within the €2 fare. Going home we got a bus into city centre and one more home which was grand. There are theoretically more direct buses but who in their right mind is going to put their hopes on a once every 45 mins / 1 hour service with all the cancellations going on with driver shortages.

    Couldn't believe how bad the toilets were and TBH I'm really not sure how the Stadium has a fire certificate. Took ages for people to get out when it was over, an emergency didn't bear thinking about.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    I had tickets to this but sold them cos I wanted to go to something else. Sounds like I made the right call 😬



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭Smell the glove




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,744 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    What you've described there in relation to public transport was a major factor in why I didn't bother getting a ticket.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,513 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Board Gais Energy Theatre is a lovely venue and is fairly easily accessible by Luas. Was there for Off Menu and was very impressed by the place. That'd suit them for larger shows



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,622 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Who were the guests?



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,714 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    No idea.

    Guests were Brian Kerr, some boxer I'd never heard of who went on the piss in New York, and Sam Allardyce.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 34,714 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Well anywhere else really 😁 modern venues are easy to get in and out of and get to the bar and get to the toilet!!! The last two mean that they make a lot more money but punters are happy to spend it, they want a good night out and a few beers. The Stadium is a complete dump, yeah it had a history but its time is gone.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,714 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Maybe a Scumbag email is in order 😁

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,283 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    National Stadium is a fairly shite venue alright, wasn't at SC but at a gig. Jacks was tiny and bar was hidden away and cans only.

    Olympia isn't much better, was upstairs there and your knees are pressed up again the row in front. Zero room.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    I've often thought that toilets should be dynamic in venues so when the crowd is dominated by one gender, they can simply move an internal divider and give more space. Queues in Bord Gais can be terrible too depending on the crowd. I was there for Dirty Dancing and it was mainly women and their queue was massive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,578 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Or just have unisex bathrooms.

    One large bathroom for cubicles. One large bathroom with just urinals.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭atilladehun


    Been to gigs in France where the women just take over the cubicles in all the toilets.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,513 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Looking forward to the Big Sam interview, curious to see what he said to piss the crowd off. I'm guessing it's about the national team



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,744 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    I'd say it was something Brexit-related or referring to us as British.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,578 ✭✭✭bren2001


    It was neither.

    He just came across as arrogant and a little racist talking about glass ceilings for English managers. You'll see on Wednesday when the pod is released.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭halfpastneverr


    A fairly poor year for football books. I've started Liam Brady's but it's not great so far. Probably doesn't help that I find myself reading it in the voice of Apres Match Liam Brady in my head when it gets tedious!



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