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These are the kinds of lads that sided with the British during the famine.

The NGO sector is out of control in this country, the tyranny once wraith by the church has been opened up to the private sector in a free for all.

They are not an NGO.

They are not an NGO.

RTE are calling them a "self styled NGO".

Anyone can call themselves something it doesn't make it fact.

If you read the link you will see what someone actually in the NGO sector thinks about them.

seem they got you hook line and sinker

Anyone can set up an NGO, it's literally just an acronym for a private enterprise, so i, you, or they are entitled to call themselves one as much as any other NGO is. It's not an official designation, it's just a term that's been dreamed up that people have bought into, in reality it's meaningless.

Just like anyone with a printer can pass themselves off as a business.

But five minutes of doing a bit of due diligence will expose them.

What exactly our heroes sought to achieve by passing themselves off as an NGO is unclear to me so far.

Difficult to imagine hard nosed developers being taken in too easily.

I suggest you watch the programme tonight.

You will see what the genuine NGO sector thinks of the antics of this pair.

I have two questions that have not been answered yet by the RTE article or this thread.

1. Is what they did illegal?

2. If not, what change in law would make it so?

Any ideas?

I'm hoping I won't have to watch the actual programme because RTE Player causes cancer and impotence.

That said, the issue of what constitutes an NGO is fascinating and I'd love to read another ten pages of bickering until everyone's hobby horses die of exhaustion.

Is there any kind of gatekeeping process with ABP? If not then it doesn't matter what happens to the appeal after two years.

This was reported on a couple of weeks ago. Not sure whether there's any overlap.

Garda fraud squad investigates allegations of ‘extortion’ over housing objections

Section 17 of the Criminal Justice (Public Order) Act:

Section 6 of Criminal Justice (Theft and Fraud Offences) Act, 2001

Section 7 of Criminal Justice (Theft and Fraud Offences) Act, 2001

So it seems we might have enough law already, but it can't be enforced if incidents aren't reported.

This is plainly extortion, cloaked with a light cover. Its the same as the boys who come to the door, offering to 'tarmac' your drive or 'fix' your slates. Just at a higher level. More widespread however is the use of objections to ABP to delay projects so much as to make them non viable.

It was simply cover for them involving themselves in cases that they had no personal interest in.

I didn’t miss those posts in the thread. I also consider those posts to be irrelevant. They are random opinions online, as are your posts and mine. None of these are part of the story. The No True Scotsman argument is immaterial imo.

I had never head of that person. But their online profile does not highlight relevance. English degree, Yoga diploma, Philosophy PHD. Lots of campaigns. Seems like another fake expert tbh.

Is a board or number of staff required? I’d a suite of 5 excluded? Is the constitution/accounts etc required to be published? Does the law say that? Genuine question.

We dont know whether these guys were paying tax. Of course they should.

im not claiming these guys were a NGO. I’m literally curious whether NGO status is a legal definition

who was fooled? It was objection for ransom. Even if they knew it was BS, the fact if exists means they have to respond.