Global warming

Current global warming is not a natural cycle, there are no identified natural drivers causing current warming. All indications are that natural cycles would have taken us back to an ice age in around 8k years, which means natural cycles are causing cooling and are in fact masking some of the warming we are causing.

Waving your hand about natural cycles without quantifying what that means now is profoundly ignorant.

My take on Global warming - AKA Climate change.

So planet Earth has been warming up & cooling down since the beginning of time. Going from extreme cooling periods in the form of ice ages (mini or otherwise), warming up and cooling down. You only have to look at our Christmas postcards to see that winters were much colder a century or two ago, then not so cold. Two thousand years ago the Romans tended their grapevines in the North of England when temperatures were much higher, then the climate changed and temperatures dropped again, now global temperatures are rising in the form of Global Warming (which nobody disputes)!

The argument as I see it goes thus .....

"Climate change is man made", caused by our burning of fossil fuels, leading to a buildup of carbon dioxide in the upper atmosphere which causes greenhouse effect, which traps the heat inside our atmosphere & the planet heats up, and this all sounds hunky dory and logical but - Global warming has happened so many times before we even existed on this planet, before the first humans breathed their first breaths our atmosphere was warming up^ & cooling down, so I would argue that we are not necessarily responsible for climate change, although I would agree that we might be partially responsible (because of fossil fuels) and the burning of ....... but I would say that we are not 100% responsible as the planet is just going through yet another cycle of warming up, before it cools down again.

Cause = The natural cycle of the planet including a percentage (unknown) of warming due to human activity.

12 month hottest streak since records kept in the 1800's.

You can tell, without even opening it, just from the title of this thread what way the OP is going to go.

Records started earlier but "suspicions" were cast over pre-1880 temperatures. Yet, the 1850-1880 climate set is regarded as the 'optimum'

It's still wrong. Only around 30% is desert.

Ask the head of Cop28 lol, the f**king arab oil baron

Sure, what's another mass extinction event between friends? Throw another tyre on the fire there lads.

Erm, the chart you're referring to doesn't prove that and the causes of those massive co2 increases are documented by it. If anything it very much so backs up that global warming is caused by humans.

"A preliminary global temperature curve shows that marine life diversified in extreme heat (1) before land-based plants absorbed carbon dioxide (CO2) and polar ice caps formed (2). Volcanoes and erosion swung CO2 levels up and down (3), but mammals evolved in a warm period (4). Now, humans are rapidly warming the climate again (5)."

https://www.science.org/content/article/500-million-year-survey-earths-climate-reveals-dire-warning-humanity

Agreed 👍

Yes Global Warming is real & measurable, and we are contributing to it, but we're only one factor in the mix as the planet embarks on yet another natural cycle.