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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,637 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Ah, the cancel culture activist. Send a tweet.

    That will show him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    At this point the unreturned, paid but not earned payment for a service not carried out has cost Mr T and RTE many times it value. At this point the best way to show your displeasure is to ignore the former small time celebrity, ignore requests for TV licences fees and do not buy a Renault. Anything else is giving this shower more attention then they deserve.



  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭chrisd2019




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,637 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ignore requests for TV licences fees

    I wouldn't go advocating for someone else to break the law TBH.

    But I agree, certainly don't buy a Renault, nothing to do with Tubs though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,540 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Will his new radio show have a phone-in piece, or interaction with the public? Would be better to just get people on air asking him when he's going to pay back the money he owes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    All my Christmasses would come at once if "Trevor from Birmingham" called into his show and after some #bantz with Tubs, asked him when he plans to return the €150k he took!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,088 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    nkm doing a good job of keeping Tubs in the news. He attended a black tie event in London, wearing a green tie.

    but he did also squeeze in a quality point




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,467 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It is the kind of image that almost demands a caption competition. :)

    "Double Oh Tubridy -- licenced to bore."

    The publicity fluffers might want to give the impression that Tubridy is doing well in London but he seems to be just seat filler material rather than an A-lister.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,110 ✭✭✭CollyFlower




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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Not exactly a black tie event when you go wearing business dress. Still, it's a start for him. He's at the 'cleaning tables' stage of his McDonalds career. Next move is to try to get up to the 'flipping burgers' stage.

    Probably showing my age, but I only recognise one name on the list of actors in that programe.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    No offence to Ms Garrihy and her fiancé ... but ...

    Why is the cost of this ring important to this story and why is the shop where they bought the ring?

    The pair posed outside the doors of the store and sharing their delight, they thanked the shop for helping them find the perfect sparkler. Appleby Jewellers returned the sentiment, sending the in-love couple best wishes on their engagement.

    One wonders if RTÉ DG will have to oversee the wedding plans!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,712 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    This engagement announcement has been brought to you by Appleby jewelers, how romantic not.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I am surprised she didn't say: -

    "I was so surprised when we arrived, I didn't know my bubo knew where I shopped for all my jewelry and accessory needs, and then the fab staff who I know by name help show us to the exact price range we were in, after all I only just got my doer upper house finished... you know the front door was by Porta, and the house refurb by ARO Architects and the garden brought to me by The Gardener.ie, oh and what am I wearing well... H&M have a new season ..."


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  • Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭supereurope


    Unfortunately, this is life now...we're going to be told constantly how great he's doing, and how he doesn't need us anymore (unless you have the Q102 app or live within Q102's transmitter range.) It's like the drunk woman on the dancefloor hours after her boyfriends breaks up with her, belting out the "I don't need you anymore" part of Cher's "Believe."

    So romantic. I imagine either Doireann or her boyfriend spent an afternoon on the phone last week to various Dublin jewellers, saying "If we buy the ring from you and post about it constantly on social media, how much will you knock off? It'll be great exposure for your business." Appleby's were stupid enough to fall for it. Thankfully, it seems fewer businesses are now accepting "exposure" as payment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭techman1


    The problem you have in RTE is it's a run like a bog standard Irish state body with all the ineptitude, waste and cronyism that that entails, but with the glitzy caché of a big media operation which means they think they need to be renumerated in a corresponding fashion

    That's it a great description. At least those working in bog standard state companies know their limitations and how lucky they are. In RTE they are full of delusions ,you have the likes of Sharon ni bheolain and clare Byrne thinking they are celebrity newsreaders on sky news when they are just convent girls that got good grades in school and got lucky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,637 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    What celebrity news readers does Sky News have?

    just convent girls that got good grades in school and got lucky

    Da Fuq?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think he means to say that many of the people in RTÉ aren't all that good and are potentially over paid and largely lucky.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,765 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I can say "and the Headlines" as well as Sharon ... I just don't have the legs for it !


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    What did Sharon do that shows she thinks she is a celebrity newsreader on Sky? Is there such a thing anyway? That's a genuinely horrible, sexist comment and I hope the proper authorities deal with it appropriately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Oi!

    He did also mention Clare Byrne.

    I'd argue that Sharon often trips over her words and has to correct herself. That's just an observation.

    Clare I tend to think like a lot of interviewers is simply a newsreader, I find many news / Current Affairs presenters to be like this, simply reading off a script. I think this could be more to do with producers than the presenter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    A spokesman for RTE confirmed that the station received "three phone calls and one email with feedback. No complaints."

    The spokesman continue "funny but on the 3 phone calls one wished to say that this is some of the best news they've heard, the second called wish to thank turbriby for getting rid of the Sunday night episode, while the 3rd call was joyous in their response they said they couldn't stop smiling with the news and the email with feedback was suggesting we cut it to 2 nights a week with a preference that we axe the show, so we've had no complaints about the show whatsoever. Everyone seem to think axing one night is good but if we could go further even better, we in RTÉ think this is a complete win and shows the audience are with us with our new direction."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,088 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I thought the rte 'stars' were told recently to stop plugging shops, car brands, hair transplant etc?

    Seems some just can't help themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,862 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    We should blame the rags that publish this "news" too. Who reads evoke? Presume the same contingent that follow RT on Instagram God help us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,088 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I thought KB would have had something to say about this news story. It's undermining his authority when he tells them to stop plugging stuff, and they openly do it again, when it's obvious the couple got a discount or a free ring for getting this company name mentioned.

    You're either the boss or not. I'd put out a line now to say any more of it and there will be disciplinary action taken.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    One way of getting around the idea of sponsorship etc, would be at your grandmother's funeral.

    Stella Starman RTÉ's newest Star

    Stella's Grandmother dies surrounded by friends and family. Starman's grandmother was very happy in Oaklands retirement home which cost 10k a year, it over looks stunning views of Howth head. Starman took to instagram clad in a black with a black vail from ValleyVails the number 1 vail shop. Recently Starman was seen out walking her grandmother in a Wheelchair by Wheellies, along with her dog Putch, who'd just had a make over with MidMadraWax dog specialist. Starman was massively close to her grandmother and a recent photo saw them dining out in the exclusive DinnerDine restaurant, meanwhile Starman will be seen at the wake handing out mugs of tea and sandwiches, from I am A mug Cafe, which recently opened its 4th coffee shop in Carrigstown.

    Kevo and the leadership team could only really send their best wishes!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,603 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Unless it is in their contract specifically prohibiting this (and I doubt it is) KB cannot control what people do outside of their work.

    I'd imaging the only way an rte name would be punished is if they plugged something on air for personal gain.

    I think Dathai O'Shea got told off for plugging his plugs on Oliver Callans show.



  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭chrisd2019




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    I'll try.......

    Ryan Tubridy is James Bond in...........

    • From Montrose with Love
    • Goldfingers
    • Thunderbollocks
    • On His Majesty's Deportation List
    • Live And Just Lie
    • The Man with the Golden Renault
    • The Nation Who Loved Me
    • Employment Contracts: For Your Eyes Only
    • A View To A Shill
    • Licence to Shill
    • Donnybrook Is Not Enough
    • Lie Another Day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭Karppi


    plugging his plugs

    Isn't that an offence? Like Muffin the Mule?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭Tow


    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,637 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    It's undermining his authority when he tells them to stop plugging stuff,

    Unless they are hocking something grossly offensive like Nazi memorial, KB has no authority.

    How would he?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It would be in their contract with RTÉ. The side deals that RTÉ "personalities" have/has caused problems for RTÉ and the RTÉ brand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,637 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Their contract would suggest don't engage in anything grossly offensive in public that would damage the reputation of the company - standard stuff, even at that it would be up for debate legally if it got to that.

    Whether they are a paid employee or on contract no company in Ireland exclusively owns a person or how else they choose to generate revenue or an income.

    Think about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    They are also on good wages, so there would be a certain amount of exclusivity as an RTÉ presenter, this is the reason why RTÉ pay so much so that the competition don't get these stars, you can sign on to exclusively arrangements for appearances. You also have to remember that such things take time and take them away from RTÉ, were they work, RTÉ would have to agree to let them head of to a photo shoot, unless they have arranged it during their copious amount of holidays.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,637 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    There is only exclusivity if it expressly stated in the contract both sign and even then that is finite.

    We abolished slavery a long time ago.

    You also have to remember that such things take time and take them away from RTÉ, were they work, RTÉ would have to agree to let them head of to a photo shoot, unless they have arranged it during their copious amount of holidays.

    You have pivoted to them not fulfilling their contractual obligations, that is completely different and irrelevant to the points raised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Cynically I'd wonder about some of the things RTÉ have allowed their presenters do while on RTÉ time.

    Again as I say the whole idea of high wages is to prevent people leaving, why pay so much money when you willing to allow them to be your competition.

    No offence to Doireann but at this point she's a walking billboard.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,637 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I have no idea who Doireann is, but if she raises her profile using her personal social media than there is a potential gain to RTE.

    There is nothing really complex about it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,104 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    It's surprising - and a little bit concerning - to see people so eager to have their bosses or companies have such a tight control over their personal lives.

    It would be absolutely disastrous for society as a whole if companies had complete control over what employees (or contractors) did in their free time.

    Bakhurst was correct to come down hard on presenters using RTE time (or resources) for unauthorised personal gain, as he did with Doireann Garrihy when she promoted a certain porridge brand in photos taken in her studio. Or when Lottie Ryan filmed a promotion for a car brand in the RTE carpark. But his authority rightly and absolutely stops at the RTE gate.

    Ms. Garrihy's promotion of this jewellery establishment may be tacky, but it's not unlawful, doesn't interfere with RTE's commercial interests or reputation, and isn't any of RTE's business.

    We should be very careful about how we call on the rights of others to be eroded because of petty gripes we have with individuals that can easily be ignored, and really mean very little in the larger scheme of things. They're our rights too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Is it a potential gain for RTÉ?

    Sure why not let all RTÉ presenters push their brand outside of RTÉ?

    An independent podcast for all, The HSE Daithi's Hair Show, Maura's Penny's from Heaven Dresses, Lottie's Toyota Car Lot.

    And what if they don't do well... what if they are just pushing a brand ... and that's all they are known for, and when they are on RTÉ people just think of that brand !

    But sure pay them 100k and let them take in another 100k with a sponsorship.

    And clearly it isn't work for her, I only know her because I look at RTÉ press clippings, and you do not. I am sure she's bring in that youth audience they are so desperate to get.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,637 ✭✭✭✭Boggles



    Sure why not let all RTÉ presenters push their brand outside of RTÉ?

    You are grossly and wildly missing the point. RTE don't have an absolute say.

    If that lady wants to share a version of her private life and monetise it, that is exclusively up to here, there is a clear and obvious value to it if your assertion is correct that she is "she's a walking billboard".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think maybe your missing the point that RTÉ suggest that their presenters are exclusive to them and that they need to be exclusive so to gain and retain an audience. Yet once you begin to be ubiquitous you just be come the next Carrie Crowley, and you get a diminishing return.

    I don't see how this fits with Public Service Broadcasting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,637 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    RTÉ suggest that their presenters are exclusive to them and that they need to be exclusive so to gain and retain an audience

    Do they? Either way they can suggest what they like.

    It doesn't trump employment law in this country.

    If they want exclusivity in X, Y or Z, they express it contractually and pay for it, the same with every other company.

    The idea a company should basically own every facet of someone is as remedial as it is dangerous.

    But thankfully absolute preposterous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,104 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Exclusivity in an employment contract means not working for competitors - which would clearly be detrimental for your employer's commercial interests. So she can't work as presenter for Today FM while signed to RTE. This isn't controversial.

    Plugging jewellery on her own time has nothing to do with exclusivity. If Ms. Garrihy wants to earn some extra money on her own time and with her own resources as a cleaner or a dog walker or a jewellery model, she's perfectly and lawfully entitled to do so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,637 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Exclusivity in an employment contract means not working for competitors - which would clearly be detrimental for your employer's commercial interests. So she can't work as presenter for Today FM while signed to RTE

    That wouldn't be absolute either, she could certainly work for either and do commercial work elsewhere. As does happen.

    But the point you raise about directly negative contribution would be valid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Clearly they are linked though - let said person go from RTE employment or contract. Then see how much related sponsorship/ promotional work they get. Said person is piggy backing on work for RTE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    2 referendums coming up in March how about a referendum on RTE....

    oh sorry the people are too immature to decide that one.... the government will do it for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    They clearly do suggest that there presenters and talent are "exclusive" to them and that is why they need to pay them so much money. I mean this has been their argument for a very long time.

    I am not suggesting that a company own every facet of a person, I am suggesting they are a public service broadcaster with contractors and staff in a public service broadcasting company that is currently in the mists of a scandal involving sponsorships.


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