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Ionity charging network

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  • Registered Users Posts: 897 ✭✭✭NyOmnishambles


    The circle K one seems to only allow one ccs (not sure about Chademo) to connect currently

    Have seen a couple of occasions where a second car has tried to charge and had to head over to Ionity

    Tried it myself at the weekend but it would not allocate the second plug

    I am assuming it doesn't have enough power



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,714 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Is this one the CircleK 50kW charger, or has the 300kW been commissioned yet? Plugshare says it's still not in action.



  • Registered Users Posts: 897 ✭✭✭NyOmnishambles


    It is the new 350/300kw that has replaced the 50kw that never worked

    It is definitely somewhat working as I have seen a couple of different cars charging off it but never more than one at a time but as you point out it may not be officially up and running yet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,714 ✭✭✭10-10-20




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭Fingleberries


    Replacing a non-working 50kW charger with the 300/350 one. Still doesn't work but is quicker at it. 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,048 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I think that's what they call failing upwards 😏

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,318 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    There was a taycan charging at it and I went to the ionity instead, but the other side had the lighting indicating it was available to start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭zg3409




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,318 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    A strange spot, would have expected their next big site to be on the Dublin to Belfast route, or further south west from where they are goinig now, in the black hole.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    I received the Ionity newsletter into my inbox this morning and it seems that there are three new Ionity sites being built in Northern Ireland. Two have been mentioned here recently, but I don't think the third has, which is the site in Dungannon at the end of the M1/A4 between Belfast and Enniskillen.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭dsandson


    Yeah we've watched it through planning, and its been on the in construction page there for a few days now. Its M&M Contractors installing it, same as the other 2 Ionity sites, and same people who did the EasyGo & Weev installs recently for the Faster Project. Looks like Belfast & Toome will be live in the new year.

    Dungannon is a great spot, right off the A4 dual carriageway. Its excellent for Belfast area to Enniskillen, Omagh & Donegal. Its a bit of a backtrack for Dublin - Lifford direction traffic though.

    Ionity also appear to have 2 further sites at petrol forecourts in NI. Derry site is approved, and the Omagh site is just a few weeks into the planning process.

    I suppose the interesting question is why they are going great guns in the north, but besides Waterford & Dublin not much activity in the south

    EDIT to say Dungannon is 12 bays, and looks to have space for another 6. Both Belfast and Toome are to be able to be expanded to 18 as well. Toome was to be 12 but only 6 installed now.




  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,369 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Its well placed for the Derry to Belfast traffic, Just off the dual carriageway. Also, its still east of the Bann.

    I could see me using it on the return trip from Dublin. (I go via Belfast as its a much nicer run than Strabane/Omagh/Monaghan route)


    Is the Derry site at the new builds on the Gransha roundabout? The BP ones at Gee's can be really busy too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭dsandson


    Yeah that's the one. I guess it could be a bit before the forecourt starts construction



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭cannco253


    Ionity UK 2024

    https://x.com/electricfelix/status/1737945843703910449?s=46&t=JJzoP-ETgaWRYF7T_Hzysg

    Andreas Atkins for IONITY UK 🇬🇧 closing year statement:


    "Approaching the end of the year, I'm delighted to share that we are gearing up for an exciting start in the UK in 2024. IONITY currently has 17 new sites under construction across England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland, in addition to the existing 23 open sites. With many many more to come throughout 2024!

     

    No less than 204 new 350 kW High-power chargers, all powered by 100% renewable energy, are currently being installed. The sites are scheduled to go live and be accessible from early January until April 2024, representing a substantial leap forward in enhancing the charging infrastructure for electric vehicles.


    No mention of Ireland…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭denismc


    I think the clue is in the title, " Ionity UK".

    I passed the Toome site today and construction looks to be complete, so hopefully these will be live in January.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭cannco253


    Andreas Atkins is the Ionity county manager for UK and Ireland, they only use social media to post.

    He could have made a separate post for Ireland if he wanted, maybe has nothing to say!



  • Registered Users Posts: 10 juggernaut2


    New ev last April which we charge on drive. But about 4 to 5 times a year we need to charge when away from home. Up to now we've done so at applegreen's. We heard about city north and we were going to charge there but saw we had to preregister, pay €20 and then .75 a kwh. Drop on to next applegreen and the ONE charging unit was busy. Fortunately not for long but several months ago there was several charger (plenty of tesla though). So my question is ionity inevitable? Should we bite the bullet and sign up for the few times we're away from home? I've read the recent pages and ionity users seem to be putting in lots of miles and not charging at home.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17 Megastreisand


    I'm going to jump in here. Isn't Applegreen something like. 75c per kWhr which is either the same or more expensive than full price ionity? If you divide the monthly subscription (and I think you only have to commit to a month at a time now) by the savings per kWhr then as long as you charge by that amount your ahead - very roughly 40 kWhr. Ionity also has the significant advantage of not being a SPOF (that's single point of failure to you) compared to some Applegreen and is generally reliable by public ev charger standards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,760 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I use ChargePoint for Ionity, and there is no pre-registering with €20…. They bill me what I charge at whatever the current Ionity rate is, and nothing more.

    Applegreen can be got for €0.68/kWh if you are using their app (which also avoids their €30 pre authorisation if you simply tap and pay with them…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,726 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Well it’s a statement by IONITY UK. I’d be pissed if they did mention Ireland in the statement….

    Post edited by ted1 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    That's a decent point, it should be social media training 101 for companies that cover the UK and Ireland.

    I think it was Ben & Jerry's brought out an ice cream flavour "Black and Tan" here. It did not last very long.



  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭tlaavtech


    Applegreen pre-authorisation now just €1 according to one of their charger install supervisor type people I was talking to over the summer.



  • Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭crl84


    If you scan the QR code on the unit, you can just Pay As You Go.

    I don't recall any €20 charge, but if there is, it's a pre-auth that will be refunded if you haven't used €20 worth of charge.


    The app does a €0.00 pre-auth to a credit card too, but my AIB card keeps rejecting it, so I just use the QR code, put in my card details, and then it charges me whatever I use....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭denismc


    I also use chargepoint, they have a monthly subscription for 12 Euro which gives you Ionity at 0.628/kWh.

    I use this when I have a lot of traveling to do like this week when I did over 1400km.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,434 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Do you not have a Ioniq 5? Charge My Hyundai is €0.73 on Ionity I think and you get a €0.15 discount per unit if you pay €7.50 subscription a month.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭denismc


    Afaik as I know with the "Charge my Hyundai" subscription your are locked in for 12 months, unless they have changed it?

    Edit, looks like it is monthly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,434 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    No it's always been monthly. We Charge from VW used to be an annual subscription unless that's changed recently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    I have the basic "flex" tariff (no subscription).

    If I want to sign up to the monthly subscription, is that a separate RFID card, or can I convert my existing flex tariff to a subscription and continue to use my existing RFID?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,434 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Your current card will work. On your monthly statement/invoices you'll see the reduced rate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    Thanks, got that sorted, where the tariff change could only be done on the website and not in the app. I'll try it for a month and see if it's worth keeping it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,434 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    You need to top up by 50 kWh per month to break even on monthly fee. Basically one charge.

    I'm pretty sure you can remotely start a charger using the app as well so there's nothing stopping you using your sub for multiple people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,942 ✭✭✭Soarer


    I’m heading to Dublin tomorrow and ABRP is suggesting I pull in at Kill North to use the Ionity charger there.

    Is there anywhere there for a decent bite to eat? Have Mrs. S and mini S with me, and they can be a bit fussy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭denismc


    When I was there in the summer there was just a basic enough Deli but they were expanding it at the time.

    Afaik it is run by Circle K and their fare really is basic enough.

    There are a lot more eating options at Junction 14 which isn't too far away but it's ESB chargers if that's ok.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,942 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Yeah, was thinking of that.

    But from what I can make out, the WeCharge plan we’re on with VW has Ionity DC at 22c per kWh cheaper than ESB.

    ABRP is saying we’ll be taking on nearly 40kW, so that’s the guts of a tenner more.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17 Megastreisand


    Kill North was majorly revamped sometime around August. There is a Supermacs there which is pretty decent and a separate Circle K Deli. Not as extensive a choice as Jn14 but I'd take ionity charging all day long over Esb at Mayfield.



  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭eastie17


    Polestar provide a nice deal on IONITY for 35 cents per KW. Coming to an end soon I think and going to 40 which is still good.

    manufacturers need more of those deals to compete with Tesla on the after sales front



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,942 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Thanks for that.

    Was Kill South the same setup? I can adjust the route to use J14 on the way up, and it’d be Kill South on the way home.



  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭eastie17


    Kill South wasnt as big last time I was there but theres 3 (or is it 4) chargers and they are very reliable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭cannco253


    Any sign of Athlone getting upgraded to 6 chargers?

    The spaces are there for the additional 2 and given how busy the site is they would be used.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    40c/kWh is very good, I'd also like to see ionity and other operators offer charge rates that are equivalent to or better than home charging rates but with a much higher monthly standing charge, I think it would help to sway those without dedicated parking to join the EV revolution



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,318 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    4 chargers, I couldnt get no4 to work but no3 was on free vend!



  • Registered Users Posts: 17 Megastreisand


    Kill South is more basic- there's a self serve coffee machine and a deli.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    [Mods can you change the link if this is behind the IT paywall?]

    Circle K is to expand the number of high-powered Ionity electric car charging points available at its service station network, adding new chargers at six sites around the country.

    The operator said it will add 12 Ionity fast chargers, which have a 350kW capacity, to the Circle K network, with new points at service stations in Kill, Athlone, Gorey, Meath and Cashel. That will bring to 36 the number of Ionity chargers currently installed at Circle K forecourts around the country.

    “Our partnership with Ionity and the latest expansion announced today emphasise Circle K’s commitment to strengthening our EV charging offering to our customers,” said Jonathan Diver, Fuels Director with Circle K Ireland. “With the growing preference for EVs among Irish motorists, Circle K is actively adapting to meet this changing landscape, preparing for the future now and beyond.”

    The move comes as Circle K continues to roll out its own branded electric car chargers, as part of a €7 million investment to bring EV chargers to 30 of its sites over the next 18 months. Chargers are already open at motorway service stations in Fermoy, Carlow and Athlone, with a further four in Artane and Ashtown in Co Dublin and Gallowshill in Co Waterford awaiting power connection.

    The number of electric cars being registered for the first time in Ireland rose 45 per cent last year, according to figures from the Central Statistics Office, with drivers opting for electric and hybrid vehicles over diesel cars. A total of 117,424 new cars were licensed for the first time in 2023, with electric cars accounting for 19 per cent of that total. Diesel cars fell to 22 per cent.

    However, the charging network remains an issue for some drivers. Circle K said it there were some obstacles to installing the chargers, citing costs and grid connections. “Despite the challenges posed by the high costs and lengthy lead times in securing a grid connection, our team is working hard to provide more high-power charging points for customers throughout the country,” Mr Diver said.

    “We will continue to engage with the relevant stakeholders to try to bring these important services to the market quicker to meet the needs of our current and future EV customers, and call for the introduction of grant support for EV infrastructure developments, especially considering extremely high costs in securing a grid connection.”

    Ciara O'Brien IT 18/01/24



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,449 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    More of a general question about Irish chargers, is 150kW charging on 400V 150kW charger a thing here, or are the fast ones 800v+? what do tesla and ionity use?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,876 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    At the Carlow circle k there are 3 high powered chargers.

    This afternoon there was one car charging at one. The other one had a Peugeot people carrier (diesel) parked at it. The third one had a transit van parked longways in front of it.

    It's great to see the new chargers being installed but my god the behaviour from some ICE drivers is disgraceful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Did you say it to anybody working there? Should be fines issued or let the air out of their tyre or something



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Ionity use 800v 350kW theoretical max, tesla use 400 volt but if a Tesla plugs in they can use non standard higher current on Tesla cars giving a higher peak power (250kW) than most 400 volt cars can take.

    I may be corrected, in general these high speeds are theoretical peak and may only be for a few minutes of a full charge cycle. Many sites may have grid or sharing limits and people may not even be able to get these peaks even when the car is capable and ready to take it.

    Do we know exactly where these new ionity sites will be?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,449 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey




  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭Bannerman1969


    Ionity now 0.53 cent per kWh with a monthly subscription which has been reduced to €5.99 per month. Appears to have changed overnight. Good news.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,318 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    This is a completely irrelevant and pointless exercise, the voting.

    Not relevant here.



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