Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Because they depend on foreign support for their survival?

If they lose the support of the US or European populations ,what have they left to defend themselves with?

Right and wrong go out the window when you have to contend with the possibility of physical extermination or wholesale eviction.

They have the upper hand against their nearest neighbours (the Palestinians and their "representatives"/goalers) but if the neighbouring countries smell blood is it not possible that they would combine to find a second "final solution" for the Israelis?

Genocide? You mean what the Gazans, Iranians, Hezbollah etc would do to the Jews if they got the chance?

What sickens me and worries is that there are people championing all this while having children of their own. That's scary.

Sick in the head.

Starry: Independent website Mondoweiss.net reports on apparent complicity in Pro-Israeli Propaganda from Human Rights Watch during temporary ceasefire

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“Human Rights Watch’s double standards put Palestinian lives at risk​"

"Amid calls for the extension of the truce and a permanent ceasefire in Gaza, HRW decided to publish a misleading report on the targeting of Al-Ahli Hospital on October 17 without conducting a genuine investigation or providing conclusive evidence regarding their speculations.​"

‘Findings’ without evidence: Human Rights Watch’s report on the Al-Ahli Hospital attack’

'Human Rights Watch’s misleading report on the Al-Ahli Hospital attack was published without a genuine investigation or conclusive evidence. Such double standards are putting Palestinian lives at risk.'

By Soheir Asaad, Muna Haddad and Rania Muhareb December 5, 2023

‘Findings’ without evidence: Human Rights Watch’s report on the Al-Ahli Hospital attack

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"Despite drawing on inconclusive evidence, not having had access to the scene, and concluding that it could neither “confirm” nor establish its finding “with precision,” HRW insinuates that the attack on Al-Ahli “resulted from an apparent rocket-propelled munition, such as those commonly used by Palestinian armed groups.” Yet, it maintains that it “has not been able to conclusively identify” the munition in question and that a “full investigation” is needed. One is left to wonder why HRW would publish such a report at all if there is insufficient evidence to draw conclusions regarding the Al-Ahli attack.

Speculation over evidence​

"Despite lacking conclusive evidence, the Al-Ahli report makes dangerous insinuations, the implications of which are severe in a context where HRW has acknowledged that lives literally “hang in the balance.” Riddled with speculative and vague language, the report fails to provide links or detailed explanations and analysis regarding the videos and photos reviewed. HRW admits it is unable to verify essential information and presents no new data or credible analysis beyond that already examined by professional groups. Indeed, Forensic Architecture, Al-Haq, and Earshot have cast “significant doubt” on the Israeli military allegation that the attack on Al-Ahli Hospital resulted from a rocket misfire, maintaining that “Israel has yet to provide any conclusive evidence” supporting this claim.

"HRW’s report effectively discredits Palestinian voices and international demands calling for an end to the attacks on Gaza. Even when referencing Palestinian lives lost in the Al-Ahli Hospital massacre, HRW dismisses the number of victims in an absurd manner, claiming it has looked at “images” that “display between 65 and 75 body bags, rolled-up carpets, and bodies.” This is clearly not a valid method or tool of any sort to challenge the veracity of Palestinian “casualties” reported on the ground. HRW even questions “whether all of these victims were from the Al-Ahli explosion.”

Starry: ^ Essential to read above article in FULL. ^

But they're definitely not genocidal.

No sir, most definitely not.

This is just their ambassador to the UN calling for the death of Palestinian and Cultural ideals.

They are evil but Hamas are hardly Nazi Germany or the Empire of Japan per your post that seems to implicitly put out a call on a public forum for Israel "solve" the problems once and for all by inflicting end of WW2 levels of death and destruction.

The lives of everyone in Gaza are in the IDFs hands and always have been. Israel can kill almost everyone in Gaza if they want to and suffer no casualties from Hamas, no battle, just a slaughter.

If you are talking about threat to Israel from the wider Arab world where a lot of people hate them, or from likes of Russia, on former, even going as far as nuking Gaza won't help with this, as Israel is a small country that is outnumbered.

On latter, Netanyahu has said in past that Putin is a great friend, has used his image in Likud election materials! Israel has welcomed Russian Oligarchs and their large bags of money with open arms as they flee the Western sanctions, and refused to even sell Ukraine weapons to help defend itself afaik let alone donate them.

Odd behaviour if Israel thinks Russia is a threat to their survival. (edit: I realise that Israel do not wish to provoke Russia unnecessarily, they really don't need more enemies, but I think their actions go beyond that.)

Do you even know any Palestinians or Iranians? Talk about a sweeping statement. Complete ignorance.

I agree but doesn't that also mean that Israel isn't committing genocide in Gaza?

I can see how the claim can be made that they are ethnically cleansing the area but if the Palestinian Arabs in Israel and the Palestinian Arabs in Gaza are the same ethnic group then the accusation of genocide doesn't stack up. It doesn't however lessen the brutality of what's happening or the tragedy that is unfolding.

I was talking about his frequent attacks on business owners but it's way off topic so probably best to leave Micky D to frolic in the Park in the the warm cocoon of his own awesomeness.

How is killing some of an ethnic group but explicitly not killing another significant proportion of that group genocide?

I know you like to throw the term around because it's emotive and you are appalled by what Israel is doing in Gaza. I'm also appalled by what they are doing, I think most people are, but it's an inaccurate characterisation to call it genocide. Words matter and accuracy of language matters.

"In every actual genocide there will always be shameless deniers like you."

Crass Trumpian generalisations like that just makes you sound hysterical and childish.