Deposit return scheme (recycling)

I wonder will this scheme be reflected in official inflation figures? It could be argued that it shouldn't be because the money can be recovered. But in reality some proportion of it won't be. And it seems to work somewhat like Tesco clubcard vouchers, which I assume isn't used to reduce inflation figures - where you spend today and get vouchers later.

There is no data collection for can or bottle recycling in Ireland

Really?

So we are introducing a brand new system for a problem we don't know the scope of, if it exists or what is causing it?

Throwing darts blind folded method of problem solving seldom works.

This is not just about more recycling it is about more effective recycling

It sounds like the opposite TBH, we are shoving in another expensive inconvenient layer of recycling into a system that all ready exists and most importantly works. May not work perfectly but I very much doubt that is down to the home user. I imagine rates for recycling at home are the highest they can be.

I assume the collection will be contracted out to the existing waste management companies, which in reality means they will get paid on the double.

There was a machine in the underground carpark in Citywest shopping centre recently that donated 10c for every can or bottle to a local youth centre. We used it all the time but it was removed a few weeks ago.

Is this coming in up the North? Or will this be another excuse to travel up and stock up on drink?

As mentioned previously, we've tried our best to limit our single use plastic consumpion, virtually no plastic bottles go into the green bin, and the only aluminium cans would be my beer cans, in a family of four. Tetra Pak is our biggest 'waste' in our house, that'll probably be next.

Ugly looking yokes alright.Some look like they will need to emptied every 2 day max.All I've seen are within the stores boundaries so maybe they get away with not applying for pp.They are within the planning dimensions

We do, and most of my aluminium recycling is beer cans so if I end up putting the blue (recycling) bin out less often as a result of this I will save there as well. My provider knocks €6 off my bill every time a bin doesn't go out so I could save a small amount from this as long as my bin provider doesn't jack the prices up

is of minor inconvenience and will rid the streets, parks, hills, and beaches of millions of empty bottles.

How?

If I go to the beach, I follow the leave nothing but your footprints mantra. I bring my waste home or in the rare case itemised disposal is provided I use them.

If I was the sort of person to throw my rubbish on a beach or in a park or on a hill I'm still going to do that, why wouldn't I? Because I can get a 15 cent tesco voucher?

That's quite frankly a bonkers reason, so the county councils have washed their hands and handed the problem to poor people and free labour.

Also I can't see many poor people walking the hills or swimming out to rescue a 25 cent bottle.

It may happen in urban areas, but I think it just creates a whole industry that will not be good for the environment.

A bin is going to get kicked over, not methodically gone through.

Recyclable TetraPak cartons of beer, mmmm😛

I have a rubber bucket at the side of the house for glass bottles and cans. There’s a hole in the bottom of the bucket to allow the rain to drain through and when full I drive to the bottle bank. Any plastic goes into the blue bin which I pay a fixed monthly fee for. I’m going to need new durable plastic (yey!) crates with lids to keep plastic bottles dry

Is there a maximum amount that can be returned in one transaction? I’ll be making 2 different car journeys to 2 separate locations (bottle bank for glass and shop for cans) and if there’s a maximum amount that can be dropped off then it would be more unnecessary car journeys.

Can you definitely get cash back rather than shop vouchers? I don’t want to be forced to purchase goods in the more expensive SuperValu under an illusion that I’m getting my own money back.

Will my monthly standing charge for my blue bin reduce as they’re burning less fuel due to less weight being transported? cough:sarcasm:cough

If the cans don't have the barcode is the charge still applied?

Does the retailer have to record the amount of money collected on the "Deposit" and forward that to the revenue service?

Where does that money go?

Where does the money come from for the payments from the recycling machines, what is the added margin? (Obvs the company's want a profit)

Every beer can I use, I put in my recycling bin.. How is this going to improve my recycling given that now I need to make a journey to do what I currently do at the side of my house?

Yes a price increase is probably inevitable for all of us because of this, assuming the bin company isn't profiting more from not lifting the bin and giving me €6 for the pleasure

TetraPak is extremely difficult to break down.The local council will be stuck with disposal forever-20 years?

Tetrapaks of water are starting to appear as replacements for plastic bottles; which seems like a backwards step really.

If opaque returnable glass was a thing (I still have a milkman, so returns would be facile) that would be the ideal packaging for milk