Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Sweet Jesus, it seems that you can't understand basic English or geography. I was quoting a doctor in the West Bank who denied that Hamas had raped anyone during the October attack and who described such claims as Israeli black propaganda.

Not, again, how is asserting that doctors as a cohort are no more or less ethical than plumbers an insult to doctors?

Do you come up with scenarios that have no basis in reality in order to deflect from holding Israel to account? Russia is no threat to Israel. Bibi has spoken about his admiration in the past for Putin. Bibi has not helped Ukraine either . You might give a board exclusive and condemn Bibi for this. Although since you can't condemn the Israeli government for anything you'll conveniently ignore this.

Let this sink in,Israel has one of the most powerful armies in the world backed up by the world's most formidable army, no state is an existential threat to them in light of this. It is merely a convenient for you to keep pedalling this canard to deflect and avoid criticism of the Israeli Government's actions

Bibi accusing the ICC of antisemitism now. You couldn't make it up could you.

I reckon he is a member on here you know.

I would describe him as one of the fundamentalist lunatics and as bad as any Hamas member. He's been very critical of LGBT people and Christians. He's as bad as it gets and it's a sad reflection on Israeli society that someone like him gets elected to any public office.

What makes you think that all Zionists agree with or support the actions of Israel in Gaza?

You are using Zionist as a pejorative term when in fact it simply means someone who is supports Israel's right to exists and is concerned with its political and economic development. When you characterise all people who support Israel's right to exist as supportive of and in agreement with the current IDF campaign in Gaza you are alienating a very large number of people and polarising an already emotive topic.

I'll be completely honest with you. This post reads like a hell of a lot of revisionism given what you've posted on this thread over the last couple of months.

I know that determination is subjective, and I'm not saying you can't do that, I'm just saying what comes to mind reading this post. Comes to mind hard.

I specifically and carefully talked about a single doctor. A doctor that wasn't in Gaza. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

I'm certainly not above being guilty of getting into the playground-esque discussions but it's not my intent. Having said that I haven't described all Israeli's or all Gazan's in negative terms and I haven't ascribed motive or drawn conclusions about the intent of either side. I've been very critical of the government of Israel and of Hamas and I've questioned the historically inaccurate way in which some posters have framed the broader issues and root causes of this conflict.

None of that means that I've condoned the actions of either side.

Well, I note that some Israeli Jewish people in the international media who are now heavily criticising Israel's actions are describing themselves as 'former' Zionists, so they themselves seem to think is a problem with Zionist ideology.

When you say that Israel is run by people like this are you saying that every politician, every judge, every LDF officer, every senior Public Servant etc shares the views expressed by the deputy mayor?