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Using DeGiro

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    Has upcoming dividends disappeared on anyone else's app since the maintenance this weekend?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    i recently opened a De Giro account for the sole reason that Saxo would not allow me buy a particular investment trust ( JAM )


    the De Giro platform is shockingly awful compared to Saxo , I hate it



  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭jimmyjim11


    City of London Investment Trust is showing up as a ETF in my app when did this change from a investment trust to a ETF ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭Anjunadeep


    yeah like others, getting tired of the constant fee changes with Degiro but whats also very frustrating is how slow their customer service dept is to respond to queries... Looking for an alternative now as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,489 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    You should try Trading 212, no fees but maddening to say the least. For example you are not allowed spend more than 95% of your available funds on any one transaction. No visibility of bid/ask volume, i ditched it, free but not worth it!

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    De Giro doesn’t even allow you buy pound or dollar denominated stocks in the local currency, all must come from euro so forex charges apply with every trade , the platform is so crude and difficult to follow as well compared to SAXO , extremely low rent , fees are very low however



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,489 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Actually it does. You can turn off auto fx and have a dollar balance etc. At least in theory, i tried selling some of my US stocks a few years ago so i didnt have exchange fees for my next US buys, some trades went though others froze, maybe its better now. That works quite well on my Davy Stock AVC account though its extremely basic in other respects.

    Interactive Brokers has the most European members of those that trade in the EU, maybe its better, i've been meaning to find something better for a bit.

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,554 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Degiro down for anyone else?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy




  • Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭dx22




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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    Down for me too

    Telling me passcode is incorrect



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    Síte is now in maintance mode



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,518 ✭✭✭matrim


    I've the recently moved back from the UK to Ireland and wondering if I should transfer my degiro account to Ireland. From a practical point of view does it matter if my account is in Ireland the UK?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Is Degiro down this evening for anybody else?



  • Registered Users Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Scoobydoobydoo101


    Anyone else having issues with stop loss orders? I set multiple stop loss orders last week and now they are all gone....I'm losing faith in the platform



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭Anjunadeep


    Anyone ever transferred shares OUT of Degiro?

    The fee schedule states '€ 10.00 per position + external costs'

    Any idea how much the external costs could be?



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    I think that is the cost, the place you are transferring them to charges. So, it would depend on where you are transferring it and how much they charge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Hibrasil


    Is "sell" and "buy back" in new platform possibly a cheaper option?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Zverklez


    Probably not if CGT eats in to your compounding



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Stormington


    Have cashed out a few positions and moved to IBKR and Tastytrade (ref links available if interested). Latter is solely for options.

    Both apps have improved in last few months and I really like the fact that IBKR has a graph that tracks your performance across time. Doing this for degiro requires a third party app and exporting/importing csvs.

    Fees on degiro have spiked compared to IBKR and even Revolut (you get 5 free trades for €8 a month on Revolut premium plus non-trading extras).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    Hi,

    Have some dividends coming to my degiro account the next few weeks. Can somebody confirm, where do dividends get lodged to. Are they stored in the flatex cash account?

    I had a look at one of my cash reports, they only seem to be generated every quarter. It says I have a balance there, I don't see any way to move some of that balance out, say to my linked back account or even to reinvest.

    I always assumed dividends or any shares gains were just added to my main shares balance, I'm obviously wrong on that!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,554 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    They are added to uninvested funds/available to trade amount, which i think is kept in the flatex account



  • Registered Users Posts: 527 ✭✭✭sterz


    Moved from KBC to Revolut a few months back but I'm only realising now that Degiro will not accept any deposits from a Revolut account. Assuming this position is unlikely to change in the near future, is the only workaround to set up a separate bank account?

    I looked for some of the stocks I'd like to reinvest in through the Revolut app but they're not listed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    Really poor from degiro today, can't login since 9am and still no resolution



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,489 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    I fund from N26 which is pretty similar to Revolut in a lot of respects. Surprised you cannot fund , its just an IBAN to IBAN "Flatex" account, something to note I suppose. So many things I dont like about Degiro.

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    When is the annual report due for release?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭One More Toy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭decies


    I closed my Davy Select account today to concentrate on using etoro which am using for about 5 years . Just saw this thread what’s the big advantage degiro over etoro ? Thanks



  • Posts: 0 Noel Fat Twig


    Do these other apps produce yearly reports like degiro does?

    Just as it's easier for tax self assessment form with these reports



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,910 ✭✭✭daheff


    they do, but from reviewing them, they are not accurate. they seem to mess about with fx fees, transaction costs etc. i've found only using the account statement actually gives you the right data.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭denismc


    I just received my annual statement from Degiro and it has given me a figure for "Gross Losses" for the year, but when I manually add up my realized losses for the year there is a large discrepancy between the 2 figures.

    Has anyone had this issue? My only guess is that Degiro is factoring in losses due to currency exchange rates!



  • Registered Users Posts: 39 joebert80


    Hi Denis

    I'm in the same situation... I dont think FX could account for the discrepancy that i'm seeing.. its so wide..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,489 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    I'm up more than I thought that I was so looks like i owe some CGT :(

    Which fees should I include? - Total Realised Fees?, other years i didn't include as they were negligible but this year its a couple of hundred so I want to include.

    I had some declared losses last year, am i able to offset against my payment due here or is that done next year? Thanks.

    Post edited by Supercell on

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



  • Registered Users Posts: 7 GambleIreland


    How do I report my Degiro positions/ win/loss to Revenue? Is there some standard form that I need to use for Revenue? Do Degiro submit something automatically or provide some form?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭denismc


    For gains you made between the 1st Jan and the 30th of November this year you need to make a payment by the 15th of December of this year which is today!

    You can make a payment online via the "Myaccount" section on the revenue.ie website.

    The form you are looking for is CG1 Form CG1 – Capital Gains Tax Return 2023 (revenue.ie)

    So you make the payment by the 15th of December, but the CG1 form doesn't have to returned until the 31st of August next year!

    You have a personal tax exemption of €1270 , which means you don't pay tax on the first 1270 of gains.

    There are a few Youtube videos that explain how to fill out the form.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    Is it down for anyone else? On web and mobile



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,708 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    Working again this morning but dividend info missing



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7 GambleIreland


    Well I guess I am fine as I did not make any gains as a total on my portofolio, loss of like 1k, means I need to still make the report though by end of August next year?



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 SilverFox2


    I think the return is by 31 October 2024 not end of August



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭Anjunadeep


    If something happens to DEGIRO, are my investments protected?

    Answer

    In the event that something were to happen to DEGIRO, the segregation of client assets ensures that your funds and positions will not be affected. Client assets are held separately from DEGIRO assets, and are not treated as recoverable assets to DEGIRO's creditors. In the event that something happens to DEGIRO, your assets will still belong to you.

    In the unlikely event that the segregated assets cannot be returned to clients DEGIRO falls under the German Investor Compensation Scheme, which compensates any losses from non-returned assets up to 90% (with a maximum of €20,000).

    A common misconception is that the €20,000 cap on the German Investor Compensation Scheme means that if something were to happen to DEGIRO (for example in the case of bankruptcy) investors who hold more than €20,000 in DEGIRO will lose everything over that amount.

    However, this is not the case. Asset segregation is in place to protect client assets in events such as these. 

    The investor protection scheme only comes into effect in the case that DEGIRO is found to have failed to take sufficient measures to protect client assets, or in the case of fraud on the part of DEGIRO.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,337 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody



    The only problem with that statement is FTX collapse for example. Note, I have no doubts about DeGiro and their separation etc. but pretty words have been said plenty of times before only to turn out to be false because the company lied and the audits did not pick it up. We can pile up the companies that have gone under because of it as well; hence it's a risk though under the circumstances a risk I don't see a reasonable way around in any form for most people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭Anjunadeep



    FTX weren't regulated though.. What stock brokerages authorised by EU regulatory bodies have in recent years gone to the wall and resulted in clients losing assets ? I cant think of any but interested to know if there are cases in which clients lost assets? Just to be clear, I'm talking about stock brokerages only..



  • Registered Users Posts: 721 ✭✭✭linkoping


    One thing that worries me about degiro is that with likes of 212 I get emails and secure form to vote as shareholder in various companies I hold, for example Deere vote I just done this morning towards the next meeting

    never ever for anything like this from Degiro in last few years

    either they don’t have the technical facilities or more worryingly they don’t register shares in your name

    My portfolio is split 50/50 between 212 and DeGiro as don’t like keeping anything in same pot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,910 ✭✭✭daheff


    if you are aware of upcoming votes you can request DeGiro to facilitate it. They do unfortunately charge a fee for processing. I think i've been charged $10 in the past for some votes.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,337 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody



    Wirecard or Barings bank would be regulated in EU and failing spectacularly. My point being; there is an inherent risk and companies can have great statements and controls checked by third parties but until actually tested they are not actually proven to work and there always has to be a first (which usually trigger a new set of controls to be implemented). Does this mean I distrust DeGiro and think I'd lose my shares? No, I'm simply aware that their statement on their website is their belief but until something happen to trigger it it's a belief rather than a fact and that applies to any other major stockbroker as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,450 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Yeah you can email degiro to vote at AGM's if you want.

    Interactive Brokers do this for all AGMs for free



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭badboyblast


    I want to invest in one or two american shares, is Degiro the best platform for this activity?


    I am resident in Ireland. Thank you.



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