General British politics discussion thread

Just watching the Starmer and Scotland visit

wow those pro-Palestinian activists are absolute nutters but in saying that it's not surprising when it comes to these pro-Palestinian protests tbh

I wonder at some point will Sunak be tempted to try and call an early election just because he's sick of it all. He's like a condemned man who has the choice of what day he will be executed on.

He may of course have one eye on history. Right now he's ranked #48 (out of 57) in terms of length of tenure. If he lasts another 12 months he'll jump up to somewhere between 40-42 (going ahead of Anthony Eden, who's at #43)

What alternative does he have? Call a GE, and he is out on his ear anyway—hardly a good alternative. The entire point of Sunak PM was supposed to be about steadying the ship in the hope that something would turn up to help them win the next GE or failing that he would do enough to bring the Tory vote up enough to avoid a complete meltdown.

The first one was nothing more than wishful thinking, but the second one was at least based on the premise that he could give a strong government and put the mess of Johnson and Truss behind them such that voters would start to question Starmer on his suitability for PM. Unfortunately, for the Tories and the country as a whole (at least in the short term) Sunak has proven to be as rubbish a politician as both Johnson and Truss.

But at this stage, what alternative is there for the Tory party? Either continue with a clearly failing Sunak or ditch him and go again (I don't for a second believe that having yet another leadership contest will force them to have a GE). Mordaunt, Cleverly? They only appear somewhat better because they really haven't been put under any pressure or scrutiny. If they were any way decent they would have already been chosen.

So this isn't a decision that Sunak has any control over. He is in the job as almost the last man standing. The only thing that keeps him in the job is that the party decides that it has no alternative. It amazing just how poor a PM Sunak has turned out to be

Yep he has to stay clear of these nutters if he wants to get elected.

Nobody in their right mind agrees with that type of protest.

Unbelievably, Labour seems to be actively trying to court the far right vote. There's no other interpretation you could put on some of their recent bizarre and un-Labour like statements.

Wasn't Robin Askwith an actor from 70s mildly rude comedies like confessions of a window cleaner and vaguely 'saucy' farces. Saffron Walden is a place in Suffolk (or definitely in Look East TV region anyway)

NHS staff rejoicing that Wes Streeting is going to be the next Health Minister, not at all Tory esque. Here's a little quote from his interview in the Times.

A real motivational boost for them, oh, and every health service looks for more money every Winter, not just the NHS Wes.

Here's a NHS Palliative Care Doctor response on Twitter, worth a read, and very measured (whilst being angry obviously) response

That "Tory Lite" moniker is looking more and more accurate each day.

Is Michelle Mone still living comfortably on the Isle of Man? Prison should be her abode.

When a huge (really, really, really big) critic of the last Labour leadership, and massive cheerleader for Sir Kier says this, the suspicion must surely be that the right of the party are losing the run of themselves.

Labour seem to have less objectionable humans than the Tories but I was hoping for a bit more reason to be optimistic.

The ERG are not happy with Sunaks Rwanda proposals, tomorrow's vote will be interesting