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All Together Now 2024

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  • Registered Users Posts: 43,884 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Can't please everyone..

    .. but The National, Future Islands and Barry Can't Swim all top-tier for me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Sure they announced 15 or so last year before Christmas. Always going to be less pleasing on a numbers side



  • Registered Users Posts: 267 ✭✭TenPicnics


    It's the quality not the quantity that generates a 'meh' from me as regards ATN 2024, unlike my reaction to all other ATN 1st announcements, but maybe quality will be found in some of the acts to be announced. As things stand I'd be happier if the acts announced by BTP were headed to ATN. But yes, early days and likely further announcements in 2024 will change that opinion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭deeks


    The National definitely not an exciting announcement given they've headlined before and played Ireland already this year but I'm a big fan so they're a plus for me. Future Islands would be on my must see list at any festival as well so another big plus. Not hugely knowledgable about any of the others but will listen a bit in the meantime and see what takes my interest.

    As some have noted its probably not the most exciting first announcement ever but of the 5 announced I have 2 must sees and will do some investigating on the others so will take that any day of the week. Of course like everyone I'm hoping for a plethora of big and exciting bookings in the next announcement but I'm remaining cautiously optimistic until then.



  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭DaSchmo


    BTP really left them for dust here...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭endainoz


    It'll balance out, it always does. BTP gave out their first headliners during the summer after all.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    A fair few BTP acts are just ATN acts from this year or 2022 like Jessie ware, Kelly lee owens, romy, gilla band, tourist, Helena hauff, the Scratch.



  • Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭ErnestBorgnine


    Ah Christ, not The National



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Ricosruffneck




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭pah


    I'll never not go see The National at a festival, one of my favourite acts for nearly 14yrs now. Read some great reviews of their latest tour.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,522 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    I'm surprised a few think the ATN lineup is poor compared to Beyond the Pale. I think anything that people are accusing ATN of in saying it's a boring/repeated lineup could be even more appropriate for Beyond the Pale.

    Obviously it's all relative but I'm very happy with the lineup announcement so far. The National, Future Islands and Barry Can't Swim easily justify about €150 worth of the ticket price and there will be much more announced in February and later announcements.

    Would guess that The National, Future Islands and Jorja Smith will take up 3 of the 5 or 6 headline slots on the final poster?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    This years poster had 10 headline acts, those three deffo in that bracket



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rigor Mortis




  • Registered Users Posts: 2 festivalhun


    I’ve been lurking here on the ATN discussion boards for years and finally decided to signup and join in.

    Is it true that an MCD act will never be able to play ATN?

    Im happy with the lineup so far and would love to see CMAT back, just saw her at the Olympia and she was amazing as always.

    People are speculating Lana Del Rey could be the next big announcement because of the Primavera sound lineup, but I think she’d be MCD? Would love to see Hozier, but probably not possible.

    For other smaller acts I’d love to see Stromae, Charlotte Adigery, Jazzy, Marc Rebillet even but I don’t think he’d fit the vibe but there’s something cool about making music on the spot with the crowd.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭Jaffa3000




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    MCD has first dibs, the financial means and an array of summer festivals and venues to offers its acts shows in the summer months means that with very few exceptions an MCD act, especially international acts will never play ATN.

    CMAT is playing fairview park as her big summer Irish show so there is zero chance she be playing ATN. If she does play a summer festival it would be EP but that wouldn’t be announced till after the fairview show.

    Lana Del Rey is too expensive and popular for ATN. She is likely playing EP or another summer show like malahide or marlay for MCD.

    Hozier is managed by Caroline Downey, the co-owner of MCD so hozier will never play ATN.

    the others are possibilities.

    the remaining headline acts to be announced for ATN will be considerably less popular/expensive than the National.



  • Registered Users Posts: 826 ✭✭✭crl84


    Big acts generally stick with promoters they have a good relationship with. For example, Bruce Springsteen has a long history with Aiken, so will always be promoted by them unless he wants a change for some reason.

    Likewise MCD and acts that work with them usually continue to. This is even more so as MCD and Live Nation are interlinked, so acts that are playing for Live Nation abroad, will usually play MCD events/venues/festivals here.

    The National are an example of an act that ditched MCD after a bad experience with them at Oxegen years ago, and have played for others each time they've been here since.

    Smaller acts will often just play for any promoter as they're not tied to a relationship and have to be flexible if they're playing in Ireland regularly and want to play different festivals.

    Theres no reason most acts that play MCD venues/festivals can't play ATN, and many will have played for both, but certain acts, usually the big ones, will just stick with one promoter.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Yeah the National moved from MCD to aiken after disaster of oxegen 2011. As Aiken co own ATN hence why the National are playing ATN for a second time and why all there shows since 2011 in ireland have been aiken promoted.



  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Spreece


    The National are in the Nick Cave bracket, top level cerebral rock, loved by ageing men everywhere. My favourite band by a distance and the only reason I’m going back to ATN which kinda left me cold (and wet) in 2023. I’ve seen them live numerous times and the recent 3 arena gig was the best I’ve seen from them. The two new albums are very strong and they are constantly developing their live versions of their oldies. One of the very best live acts currently touring and a big catch for ATN.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,889 ✭✭✭Rfrip


    So torn between this and beyond the pale for next year



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    What happened with The National at Oxegen?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    They were scheduled against beyonce and literally no one showed, they had done a 3 night sold out olympia run the previous December so then playing to a hundred or so people at oxegen was a noticeable downgrade.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Jemmy Button


    The National are a truly turgid affair. About as bland as a manual handling course at work; about as dour as Pat Kenny talking about the budget. To put them in the same bracket as Nick Cave is an insult to middle aged men everywhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 43,884 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Fecking hell.. this thread stinks of music snobbery.

    It's a music festival.. there'll be plenty of acts you don't like or don't think belong on the lineup.

    Quick tip - find another stage or if all else fails, sell a ticket and let the rest of us enjoy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Jemmy Button


    And the you're the person who gives manual handling courses judging by the dreariness of that response



  • Registered Users Posts: 43,884 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    "Manual handling courses"? What are you babbling about?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    I'd never seen The National live until their gig in The Point this year and I wasn't particularly looking forward to it, but they absolutely blew me away. One of the best gigs I've ever seen.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Jemmy Button


    I can feel the miasma of officialdom radiating off you.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,578 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    My wife is a huge national fan. Me not so much, I find their records a bit samey and they rely on the same drum riff for a lot of their songs....

    But I've seen them twice live, this year in the point and a few years back in iveagh gardens (2014) and both times they were superb. This year especially where they played a set list of 28 songs!!! Matt was in form and sounding great.

    I can still recall the gig from 2014 in the warm sunshine. Yes it is music that is lyric heavy and meandering, and if that makes it "middle aged music" so be it.

    As head line names go they are certainly popular enough to be a big draw for ticket sales



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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    Don't post in here for a few days. Not even to respond to this. - Mod



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