Nissan Leaf

Looks like a trade sale on that leaf so it would be plus VAT?

Afraid herself won't drive that :-)

There was a couple for 10k, Leaf 40s. As more and more folks realise chademo is gone, they will drop like a stone.

I have a leaf 24 as a third car in the family and it is perfectly fine for a runabout. I don't take it on long trips.

Well said!

Going forward, with the bigger batteries, I think most people will charge at home for the vast majority of their charging. I know mine is at home and work only now, since they started to charge crazy money for public charging.

As a result, as you said, the Chademo issue isn't really an issue for most users.

Also remember that 80% of more commutes in Ireland are easily handled by a 40kw Leaf with no need for public charging.

But a lot of folk are using it as a stick to beat the Leaf with.

I'm on my 2nd Leaf, it's a great car.

Nissan Ireland arent telling prospective buyers to look at other brands every time a Leaf is asked about. Its important that people know about the shirt comings, but it's more than that. Some people are directing interested parties away from a Leaf for no other reason than they wouldn't buy one themselves. I wouldn't buy a Zoe, but have recommended them before.

I don't expect anything from a car dealer/manufacturer beyond what I paid for and warranty. For me, the only let down with the Leaf within my expectations was the crappy app stopping working after about a year. I wasn't bothered jumping through hoops to get it working again because I only used it to preheat the cabin on a very odd occasion. I never expected a much improved CHAdeMO network here and a decent retrofit CHAdeMO to CCS retrofit is fantasy talk.

€8,500 The car has mostly motorway km. It got already few battery modules replaced, but it will need something like 3 more as its showing 4 weak cells. The car has few extras e.g 360 degrees cameras, partial leather seats or Bose sound system.

https://www.donedeal.ie/carparts-for-sale/nissan-leaf-24kw-battery-pack/34393428 2013 Nissan leaf 24kw battery pack. Working perfect before its removal from car today. 10 bars remaining for battery condition which means approx 18.5kw remaining.

https://rangetherapy.org/

EV Range: New life for your Leaf

Eamon and Barry both drive Gen 1 Leafs. A partner in The Netherlands, Muxsan.com, provide a SWAP kit to enable any Leaf accept a different main battery pack . They are certified to install Muxsan kits in Ireland for all Nissan Leaf cars and eNV200 vans.

Main Battery Pack Swap

• 30kWh or 40kWh for 24kWh or
• 40kWh for 30kWh or
• 60kWh for 40kWh or 30kWh or 24kWh [these are rare birds]
• NEW – Chinese Refurbished Leaf battery packs – 42kWh and 50kWh [coming very soon – first one installed]

A slightly degraded 40 pack with 30-35 kWh would be a nice upgrade though.

If this is your first ev, and you're thinking leaf.

My only advice is to install an untethered charger, i.e. just the box in the wall.

That way you buy the cable type and length to suit your car, and if your car changes, the charger can easily change too.

The problem is not everybody knows about the future of the CHAdeMO network.

And that includes current owners and even people who bought one recently.

There's nothing wrong with giving advice that could save people a lot of money.

They used to offer CCS upgrades as well for ~3k, I don't know anyone who went for it mind... If I was to upgrade my leaf that's what I'd go for over a new battery

I have zero issue with people pointing out and discussing the short-comings of the Leaf, especially with regard to CHAdeMO. It should be discussed, as it's an ongoing thing, but people do need to do their own research on any car before buying.

I never said you were telling anyone not to buy a Leaf. It is however a recurring theme in this thread and in others where a Leaf is either recommended by another Boardsie, or the OP asks directly. I saw that you had earlier recommended a cheaper Leaf. My recent post was aimed at those point blank telling people to avoid the Leaf, which is a ridiculous blind statement to make. It just so happened that I had quoted your post, so I understand why you thought I might have been having a go at you 😂.

Fair review @MarkN, and it's mad how everything is exactly the same as in the 181 we had. The tech that time was very good and the fact that it's still fairly up to date is great. I always liked the painless driving experience and good seating position and height and pretty good loading space for those IKEA trips. If you don't need it for long journeys it's still a dinger. And as it hasn't really evolved since 2018 one of the older cars bought carefully is a better buy.

You’ll have to show me where I said discussion boards should be excluded from research.

The responses I don’t like are when someone asks about a Leaf (or any other EV, but it’s mainly a Leaf) and the response is to buy x, y, or z instead. This is often done without the responder having any knowledge of what the posters requirements are. They project their own negativity of the Leaf when the car is probably a perfect fit for the person asking. Not everyone needs to do long commutes. Many people never need to use the public charging network, so CHAdeMO doesn’t matter one iota to them.

I have already said that the short-comings of the Leaf should be discussed, but sure you can take me at my word, or not. You’ve already misconstrued what I’ve been saying.

The short-comings of the Leaf24 are the reason I eventually bought a Tesla, which you can fact check on my post history. To save you time….The range on my L24 wasn’t sufficient for my commute all year round when I started a new job. I had actually ordered a Leaf40 which suited my needs, but they couldn’t guarantee delivery date which put a question mark over the final price and finance rate. The Tesla cost many thousands more and not everyone can afford that difference.

To conclude; I agree the Leaf is not the market leading product it once was. However, it’s still a perfectly capable car which would suit many people and offers better value for those use cases. I wouldn’t rule it out, even as a seasoned EV owner.