"Green" policies are destroying this country

Best to wait for confirmation of type of car involved.

The big fire at Luton Airport in which 1400 cars were destroyed and the building has to be demolished was started by a Ranger Rover diesel.

Some still blame EVs.

Unusual case but they say the arrest was precautionary.

If the Landrover Monthly says it wasn't an EV that's a strong indication.

As I said before best to wait for confirmation.

Yes, agreed it's one to watch.

That's right. Posted relevant links for you more than once that you never even glanced at. You're not a serious person. From here on you get short shrift.

Uh, no. I don't. Carbon neutrality involves offsetting carbon emissions by other means. So, in your opinion we're going to offset all our natural gas burning by ... what, exactly? Buying shares in the Amazon rainforest? Your 2030 document doesn't say, does it? The ones I posted for you do. But you never looked at them.

So six years from now we'll be in completely uncharted territory and nobody will have given a second thought to the plan beyond 2030? When are we going to wait till, 2049? On what date do you decide that your "huge improvement in technology daily" will allow us to make up our mind? What about the four scenarios that have already been set out by government appointed bodies? Oh yeah, you don't know about those because you didn't read the documents.

You don't read links. You don't have the first clue what is proposed for beyond 2030 and have no inclination to find out. Why would I waste yet more time on you?

Have you figured out yet what “net zero” and “carbon neutral” is?

You accuse me of not reading links but you clearly didn’t read the first paragraph of the government document

So who exactly is not reading links?

Eh, maybe we shouldn't store the Ammonia in the form of unstable ammonium nitrate in a decaying impounded tanker ship and just leave it there unmonitored for a half a decade

That incident has absolutely zero relation to any real world scenario for using Ammonia as an energy storage medium

And yes, there is a risk from transporting and storing any chemicals. Using Ammonia as a backup to renewables is a risk, but a much lower risk than not having the renewables and using LNG or Gas as a primary source of electricity from a sheer numbers perspective

The point I made is the plan is to 2030 and not 2050 because in reality things will change, technology will change. In 2030 if it doesn't they can continue using gas etc.

How is that "living in a dream"?

If the report was based on a plan till 2050 and based on something that didn't exist yet then you could claim that but it doesn't.

I have no idea what the link is supposed to prove or what relevance it has to Ireland?

Any car goes on fire now the same people claim it's electric. A diesel Nissan was on fire recently and twitter was full of comments it was an electric car.

Quite simply, it lets us see how renewables work at large scale without making massive investments into our national grid with no guarantee of any long term result but still achieving carbon reduction as quickly as possible.

If renewables can't practically, feasibly or commercially operate hydrolisis plants purely only to produce hydrogen for heavy transport and industry - even if it's only a hydrogen blend or allows a certain amount of the industry to decarbonise - it sure as hell isn't going to be able to provide the sole source of all energy for this island as some will happily advocate.

If we started now, then by 2050 we should have a pretty solid understanding of what both nuclear and renewables can and cannot do.

We'd be in a much better position to therefore make a call at that stage, on whether a 100% renewable source of energy for this island can be achieved:

• Yes? Great, we work towards that for 2100, and let nuclear wind down naturally, without any pressure, happy in the knowledge we're already carbon free
• No? No problem, we're already net-zero and winding back the renewable-only plans and ramping up more nuclear will not see us backtracking on carbon emissions. Or, continue with your hybrid mix of renewables and nuclear.

Plus, renewablly produced hydrogen carries a nice shiny "green" tag attached, unlike pink hydrogen produced from nuclear, or blue produced from gas with carbon capture.

Whereas, under current plans, we could find by 2050 that an all renewable grid is just not a runner, and we end up burning copious amounts of whatever we can get our hands on for many decades to come. That's if we haven't scared off all industry and/or gone completely broke as a nation in the meantime.

Your living in a dream is your complete refusal to even attempt to understand the difference between carbon neutral emissions and net zero emissions for electricity generation even though it has been explained to you on numerous ocassions with link provided.

The only plan presently to reach zero emissions is the offshore wind/hydrogen plan of 30 GW from offshore (now risen to 37 GW) where in Eamon Ryan`s dream world it can be achieved by spending €100 Billion.

A well planned and managed grid should be well able to manage a mostly renewable energy supply. In Australia, they're aiming for 100% electricity from renewables in some regions by 2030

Ireland is not identical to Australia, our resource is primarily wind while theirs is primarily solar, but both grids will include both wind and solar, and both will include storage as well as backups and redundancy through interconnectors and thermal plants while the transition is managed

Zero chance of that happening