Events Centre

At least we got a bit of a better understanding what the "detailed planning" involved. But in general I agree, this is a big pile of nothing.

I take zero pleasure in saying it, I would love for it to be built but I'm a realist and all the data points to it not being built.

Constructions costs have skyrocketed.

Small Arenas in the UK and Europe are struggling massively since Covid. Touring schedules have changed and small arenas are losing out.

Bam are reported to be looking to leave the country.

Why is the design constantly being altered, why are there so many delays.

It all points to the project being pullled, they are likely finalising the official excuse.

Well, now, that a much more measured post with reasoning and information. It's a world away from the valueless "never gonna happen" shtick.

While all of what you say makes sense, I wonder why there continues to be big money spent on a project that's due to be canned. That the bit that doesn't add up to me.

I still maintain that people absolutely love saying, "not going to happen", in situations like this. It's got a real, "I tell it like it is" vibe!

To be honest, as much of a shame as it would be, if we could get a block of four or five story apartments for the site, that's something I could at least live with. It would still be preferable to another empty office block or a barren site.

Still hope that the Events Centre actually goes ahead.

Probably would be student apartments which wouldn't be much use to be honest.

The whole saga is a sorry mess and stuff like this leaves people extremely cynical when any new announcements are made. Wasn't there a big announcement by Micheal Martin a few years ago that a new city library and revamp of Grand Parade was on the way? Haven't heard a thing since.

It's just laughable at this stage. Would someone just officially kills this off??

"City councillors were told last night that the completion of the detailed designs for the proposed 6,000-capacity venue, which is in line for some €57m in State investment, has resulted in a cost increase.

Talks about the increased costs are ongoing, and a revised timeline for delivery cannot be provided until those talks are completed, they were told."

Definitely going to start early next year 🤔

Taxpayers will have to cough up more funding to deliver elusive Cork event centre project

I think with an election looming, they'll get it started next year.

The absolute utter farce that is the cork events centre has a new chapter. Just bin the thing at this stage.

Does anyone have a ballpark figure of how many events a year would it realistically host?

I'm guessing it can do daytime events and conferences also like Comic con and whatnot.

It will probably be in the region of 65 or 70 million from the government at this point.

If they'd just got it done they'd have built 2 arenas for the price at this stage. Construction costs are not going to come down. The more you wait and see, the costlier it gets. Also have to say that the current City Council CEO is an absolute disaster. Has overseen a significant decline in Cork City centre during her tenure, the events centre saga being the cherry on top.

Yeah. I'd also revamp the bonded warehouses into some sort of maritime museum/experience with restaurants and bars. Great location but being left to crumble.

The event centre site and (possibly still) the counting house ,plus the tax office site (up for sale) are wholly owned by bam - no city or state ownership .. i'm not sure who "owns" the event centre project itself as the city has paid over a million euros out in development costs , which seemed a bit bonkers to me -

The port of cork bonded warehouses are probably in limbo - yes they were sold to a developer, but that development isnt going anywhere in a hurry , and who knows if the site has actually been paid for -

The way things are going the north docks may come up as a option ,

Agree totally. It's common sense which isn't all that common unfortunately with goverments sometimes. Live nation have massive clout. Have it goverment owned it doesn't have to make a profit they'll get the money through tax receipts via hospitality revenue.

"Lets get this over the line.... "

Its not really on bams priority list -

They can hang on and wait for more funding ,theres an election coming - especially since theyre billing cork city council for at least a good chunk of design costs -

If it doesnt happen they'll prob put in for more student accommodation on the site

I didnt realise that Heineken had withdrawn from the project and sold the site to BAM. Thats disappointing.

The Government should not be giving anymore money to BAM after the debacle of the Childrens Hospital, they are untrustworthy.

"Up to 15,000 people a week will be required to attend concerts, theatre shows, conferences, exhibitions, and banquets in the Cork event centre to make it a commercial success."

750k people a year, pie in the sky thinking anywhere near those numbers are attainable.

The 3Arena in Dublin had 567k visitors in 2023.

This time it's different 🤔

'No more false promises': Decision on events centre due in weeks

Back in May, the decision was due in weeks, this time it's imminent! Maybe there's an election coming up, anything to be said for another sod-turning ceremony 🙂

Taoiseach indicates to Cork TD that a decision on events centre funding is imminent

He said that having spoken to the Taoiseach about the long-stalled Cork Events Centre, he was hopeful the Government would be able to finalise a decision on funding of the centre “before the end of this month”.

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-41433523.html

Yet more!

Guess everyone is shocked by this!

Despite assurances in recent weeks from Taoiseach Simon Harris, Tánaiste Micheál Martin, former finance minister Michael McGrath, and former Tánaiste Simon Coveney that they hoped a funding decision would be made before the end of July, it has emerged that a decision has been postponed until the autumn.

Cork people being treated 'like a bunch of fools' over delayed event centre, says TD

Unlikely to be a decision before the general election at this stage surely